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hello im so sorry this is the ouran anon i just wanted to let you know that submission was genuinely of good faith π i just recently rewatched the series and i havent ever seen genuine critic of it on the bird app, i can see how its probably a very tricky topic to discuss π
i'm so sorry for thinking you had bad intentions π it's not your fault !!
also this is going to get very long, sorry for in advance to that !
on the / anime /, i genuinely believe it aged poorly. it has its comedic moments and i do like how the club genuinely felt like a found family. their interactions felt natural, just kids goofing around, and each of them play into (and subvert their tropes) well so they come off as distinct characters. the show had its entertaining moments ! i remember liking it when i initially watched it, but the beach episode (you know the one) completely shifted my enjoyment. i don't like that haruhi was blamed and made to apologize and the takeaway was 'she had to learn to ask for help' - as their friend, you CAN step in without need their approval and i stand by that.
also pretending to SA someone to show that they shouldn't trust anyone, not even their own friend, what a great way to send a message /sarc. i don't like SA/attempted SA being used as a plot device and as a scare tactic in stories, it's cheap and ultimately served zero purpose except to increase my dislike for the character and show.
there's nazi imagery to refer to 'radical feminism' (the zuka club), which is an odd choice. i doubt it's related but the zuka club states that they're ok with same-sex relationships and having a 'he*l h*tler' moment with that just personally irritates me. does the show also make them predatory and reinforces negative lesbian stereotypes ? yes (re: episode 19, where a female character's entire goal was to steal haruhi's first kiss). can the zuka club be seen as TERFs ? to a certain extent, yes - they keep reiterating that haruhi is a girl, basically just transphobic drivel. it kind of hurts to see the show have a positive queer outlook until it comes to lesbians.
my least favorite character is tamaki and it is because of that one episode (plus i just think he's VERY annoying in the anime, he keeps trying to reinforce the 'haruhi is girl, and girl wears skirt and long hair' drivel all throughout the entire show. it was annoying when i was first watching as a kid in the closet, and it's still annoying to me as a trans masc lesbian.
there's also the transmisogyny with how the characters refer to haruhi's dad as the T slur. i think that just aged poorly and i know it's been debated if that word was used because it wasn't deemed a slur then. i do like ranka and mizusa's portrayals and how kind the show is to them. one of the best aspects of ouran is how positive the trans representation is (if you can ignore certain comments from the side cast and just focus on haruhi tbh).
i genuinely think haruhi is the best character in the entire series. they're true to their beliefs, they're since, and they seem like a good person to enjoy a rgu watching with. they're personally my favorite character and i personally would've just preferred haruhi to come out single by the end of the anime series. kasanoda had like 2 minutes of screentime but i also liked him a lot as well. he was just an awkward loser and gingers >>>> blondes lol /lh
overall, my thoughts on the show are very negative. i do think there are funny moments in it, but i def can't rewatch the show in its entirety. the fanbase is VERY protective of their fave media and i respect it, but they're hostile if you have any kind of different opinion on it, even when you specify you're talking about the anime.
i would love to hear your thoughts though, even if you disagree (or agree) with mine ^^
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