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the way some of you guys talk about skz you would think they were IDF or something
sorry to hear you're having a hard day, hope tomorrow will be better 💗
we don't interact much often but u are like a "friend" to me, idk how to explain, like an older wise friend that says things that will change your life and be on your mind for days, if yk what I mean.
it's nice to open twt after a shitty day and see something funny and interesting in our little community, it makes me happy.
you're a big part of it for me, we think alike a lot and you're always so kind when we interact and when I sent something here.
sorry for the random rant all of a sudden, it's been hard since that collab was announced and released, I really love sk¡z and they really disappointed me, but it helps to know I'm not the only one feeling this way.
thanks for being a "voice of the reason" here and talking abt those issues even if it upsets you, being on the right side hurts, but it'll be worth it.
that's it (hug you and kiss your cheek), thanks 🤍
Oh my friend, you're so sweet. Thank you 😭. I sometimes just feel like I'm screaming into the void (not that anyone is obligated to listen or agree with what I say! I don't ever have any expectations from anyone!) and get a little in my head about it, that I'm either posting too much about the boycott and pissing people off, or posting too much about 5kz amidst this and...pissing people off with that lol. I think we're all just trying to find our footing here again, and settle into some semblance of a new normalcy after having our community rocked by this damn single and all that it entails....and being unable to every time something comes up.
Like today. Idk what it is about them being back in SK that has me on edge now, and I kinda just got a bit overwhelmed again. But no, friend, you're not the only one feeling adrift and a little lost and upset. And thank you again for your kind words (it makes me so incredibly happy to be able to provide a little bit of comfort or joy for anyone around here, so your message really put a smile on my face and made today a little less grim!). Hope you have a lovely day/night and lets all hope tomorrow is better 🧡 (hugging you back and giving u a forehead kiss ☺️)
For some good news:
Israel tweeted this batshit insane movie villain-esque threat towards ireland earlier https://twitter.com/IsraelMFA/status/1792943282105848152?t=TUO5qZ0Y33o549Ab8Yn0HA&s=19
And the Irish government responded by announcing an 8am press conference tomorrow morning for what is widely expected to be the announcement of irelands formal recognition of the state of palestine! Alongside Norway and Spain 🤞
Israel are rapidly losing the plot and unravelling in real time
i miss 5kz so bad i feel like after the heavy social media bans there is such a heavy disconnection between us and them :(. idk if we will ever get our old connection with them back bc unless they discuss this at contract renewals these restrictions arent being lifted any time soon. before when we voiced our concerns we were always heard, wether it be chn indirectly addressing it in chns room or smth else but now it just feels like shouting into an empty void.. everything just feels so.. scripted? and censored. i know if this collab happened back before chns room got cancelled he would have atleast indirectly addressed it but now.. :/
Well people have threatened to be violent at concerts and festivals over this song. Ignoring this certainly won't make it better for the fandom.
Idk I hear people bragging left and right about how much creative freedom and power 5kz has but at the same time people are saying their company completely controls them and they're absolutely helpless and can't do anything about it. Just like everyone likes to brag with 5kz humanitarian work and charity donations in fanwars, but as soon as people expect the same for other humanitarian issues (because once again, showing some sort of support for the people dying and suffering in Gaza is NOT something political) it's not okay. Like pick a fucking narrative
And everybody yapping about how they are idols and not allowed to speak up, it's bs. There are idols who HAVE spoken up so far. And I've heard all sorts of excuses for that too. "Kevin from tbz was allowed to speak up because the group isn't as famous as 5kz so he has more freedom and that's why he could do it." "Svho is from exo and they are an older and bigger group and so they have more freedom to speak up than 5kz". Make it make sense pls
sending this with love and im not happy with 5kz either at the moment - but i do think we have to be careful to not conflate following through on a poor choice of collab with being actual zionists themselves because this is not the case. also as much as i agree with wanting them to give us a sign, chn and flx have been banned from going live for the slightest things, i dread to think what would happen to them if any of them properly spoke up
I don't think 5KZ are zionist just for working with CP and G*ldstein. I don't. I do think that them working with, praising, and giving a platform to people who are zionists at a time when Isra*l is trying to wipe out Palestine tho isn't a good look, and therefore deserves, imo, to be addressed. Esp when it's tearing their own fandom apart.
https://retrospring.net/@Starlost29/a/112480948989315900
Anon, Itzy have posted pics with Palestinian flags/symbols in the background and they're also with jyp3 so I dunno why people are so insistent that it's impossible for skz- they're the most profitable group in the company- if they wanted to do something to indicate support they absolutely could and to insist otherwise is just wild. They aren't mindless puppets with no agency and I can guarantee if a single one of them decided to donate to gaza or post a picture with something symbolic in the background they would face no meaningful repercussions in their jobs- people just cling to this bc it's easier to believe that than accept they haven't said anything bc they don't care to.
so many MORE powerful celebrities have shown their REAL politicians and powerful government figures that actually can make a change not fucking kp0p id0ls in the most strict industry
i was so incredibly disappointed by chns bubbles too lmao like he’d be silent for so long that i was holding out hope he would hint at something? but i’m just stupid i guess
Thank you for being open about how you’ve been feeling lately. You’re not obligated to! But it makes me feel so much more understood because I’ve felt so dumb for how genuinely awful the whole situation has made me feel. I hadn’t realized how much they had become my reason for everything I did. Which is SO unhealthy, and I understand that, but having that comfort so abruptly become something that causes me so much anger and disappointment has done some awful things to my mental health. Anyway, not to dump in your retro! I kinda just wanted to thank you. I feel less alone!
You're very sweet and I appreciate your insight anon. Dump away haha! It's nice to not feel so alone. And tbh...dont feel bad about how "unhealthy" it might be. We all have crutches that help us get by. A funny little anecdote:
About 6 months after moving in with my parents after having to sell my house during my divorce, right around when the divorce was finalized, I started getting really seriously into 5kz, and in doing so I started collecting photocards. Just for fun, yk? And one night, my 70 year old dad came up behind me as I was organizing my new binder I had bought for my tiny collection and he's like "what is that??" and I showed him (reluctantly lol) and explained it and he was like 😵💫 and grabbed it and ran into the other room and showed my mom, laughing about my binder of mimo pc's lol (not mean heartedly, but mostly just shocked) and I was like "you know, my whole world just fell apart, and this is how I'm coping, getting into kp0p. I could very realistically turn to alcohol or serial dating or something else self destructive, but this is what brings me joy and keeps me happy in the midst of this divorce" and you know....since then, he has said MANY times "you know, Grey, I'm so happy you have those boys" cuz he knows. Years ago my brother died and my dad became an alcoholic and literally ruined our family for like 15 years lol.
SO ALL THAT TO SAY, it's ok if 5kz are a big part of your life. They have been for me for 2 years and that's why this hurts. It's ok to lean on them, and I mean.....is it super healthy?? Probably not lol, but that doesn't make you a bad person, or stupid or whatever if you do. I think this has been, at least for me, a huge wakeup call though, and a reminder that they're human and fallible and......yeah. ALkjkjafkld sorry for dumping on you now 😭 Sending hugs, anon 🫂
maybe you all should let this frustration out to the actual people in power to make a change like the governments and politicions that they deny everything that is happening and literally allow it in the first place not the powerless employees that are under tons and tons of contracts.
i just dont understand why do u expect them to talk about this when they didn't talk about anything that ever happened like the Ru$so-Ukra!nian War? and so many terror!st attacks and wars and conflicts and things happen on a daily basis even now the cong0 is also facing genocide IF THEY EVER talked about what's going on on palest!ne it's not gonna be fair to the other nations that now are suffering and they would go into this rabbit hole that it's not their place they're not the government not politicians not activists they have no power to change any of that we believe they're good people and on the right side beyond these contracts but it's not gonna help any suffering nation if they publicly announced what side they're on it's just the armchair activist want to hear but it wont do shit wont help wont make it better or worse.
I’ll just be straight forward. You should leave the fandom simple as that
$kz got no power in that cmpany or chn would have gotten his l!vestreams back he clearly misses them rmbr his fan sign when he said he wanted to stream again? or when he comes to bbl every sunday and when he said "maybe bc it a sunday bc i miss u lot" that was his safe space to communicate with fans and they took it away he cant do shit these
u keep saying siding with z*onists like they outright supported !srael when all they did was collab with a stupid asshole who reposted z*onist stories, and an isr*eli who as far as i can tell only posted about hostages — being isr*eli does not automatically make u a z*onist but thats neither here or there. the point is i wish ppl would have some perspective about this. do u have receipts that cp contributed more to genocide than YOU in your every day capitalist life? yes he posted shitty ass stories, and if u want to say skz working with one person means they completely endorse them and their views, then that’s just fucking stupid.
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