no i agree, im fucking mad at the internet for jumping into conclusions with little to no evidence other then others, i think wilbur didnt truly cause pain as often as she claimed, i think he did it a few times / because he was stupid and clueless because he sounds like he lacks the skill on reading the room or realising if hes doing something bad, shelby is being a bitch, she has a similar body language to kadybugs (i think thats how you spelled it, idk i stopped caring about her a while ago bc she was more bullshit) Dont hate me, hate shelby, she talked about on a stream how nobody should ever feel like they have to kill themselves after she got sent death threats and never spoke about how she literally told her fans she didnt care if they did it to other people, and she never talked about the dead children who were at the cost of her fans. Fuck shelby, cuz i guess it only matters when it happens to her, fuck wilbur aswell, fuck them both, dont send me a threat for sharing my sight of both sides, cuz if i was anywhere eles typing this i would be doxxed in 24 seconds over something that isnt our businesss