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unpopular opinion: I am worried about a large part of the fandom, because there are many people who believe that jsvng's pain tolerance is low: (based on videos where you can tell jsvng is acting or pretending for the camera or from their own imagination)
https://x.com/masterrmeemo/status/1853407692116664449?t=IFLa-NsqJDrMQPR_2TjKzQ&s=19
https://x.com/ssilentsoft/status/1824781011844014384?s=19
https://x.com/cloudrages/status/1853765783395991940?t=u-p4eIJnl0CuGsiFWT4DLw&s=19
https://x.com/cloudrages/status/1825217605541765579?t=KH2KfqA50x4A4Bdz8y0Wkg&s=19
https://x.com/Lilin_0401/status/1867546781011390855?t=yZqjwYe-yONdCf3BEmqL-g&s=19
https://x.com/1nnieM1nnieKnow/status/1850009985226358928?t=o_un8SZjN8DNL7yrSlWy9w&s=19
https://x.com/cloudrages/status/1828181844824613224?t=pr87L0V330YWP-mD7g9Xcw&s=19
And let's not even talk about all the fanfics where they write jsvng that way:
https://x.com/cloudrages/status/1862870480698446287?t=jUWt90rSA-0qLzRu_e_JCw&s=19
https://archiveofourown.org/works/53441341
https://archiveofourown.org/works/55767670?view_adult=true
https://archiveofourown.org/works/61536214
https://archiveofourown.org/series/4462243
https://x.com/got_thatrizz/status/1850941015030718914?t=mQczuu06eL_MJesw-3pBzA&s=19
Sometimes this fandom worries me, is it even normal that they think that a 24-year-old man, an idol with a busy schedule, a gym boy and also with huge tattoos has a low tolerance for pain, even when he himself confirmed the opposite by saying that those huge tattoos DID NOT HURT and that he CAN handle the pain in his body?
https://x.com/goldensvng/status/1872491431186837763?t=Ift5_X97VqdHQ_xE2cGj7w&s=19
https://x.com/914st/status/1860508546393342433?t=GesJX2o9MUyxIYBtax2REQ&s=19
It's unfortunate that certain people in the fandom think that, I wonder what jsvng would think if he read all those lies about him, even though he himself confirmed that his pain tolerance is high. I'm sorry that it was so long or with too many links, but a large part of the fandom still doesn't understand it or are still blind to not seeing reality (or they simply don't want to see it) what do you think about this?
hi hi,
I didn’t open any of these links, cause I don’t know why people send other peoples posts to me in the first place like this.
so imma be honest I don’t understand why this worries you so much. first off jsng probably wouldn’t care. like if I had a high pain tolerance but people didn’t believe me i’d say “okay cool” and move on????
also, like thinking or talking about him having a low pain tolerance is like pretty mild, one it’s fanFICTION, and two people talk bout him as a squirrel hybrid, or as a mob boss, a lot of times was “real” and “true” doesn’t matter when it comes to our posts, cause like it’s for fun???
idk, I can’t tell if you’re trolling, but I really hope you’re not too upset about it.
Might be controversial but for me, the t/b not being tag is not a matter of "oh this author on Twitter wrote a story I'm gonna read, oh? Wait it is not tagged and if the dynamic I want is not there I'm gonna stop reading" but rather a "today I'm craving a story with A top and B bottom I'm gonna go to AO3 and look for those tags and see what I find" if is is not tagged you might miss a story you might have liked because it doesn't show when you look for that specific. Complaining about people wanting that tag to search easily (which is what the tags are for) is like publishing a fic with all the characters but not tagging the pair because "if you like the story it should put you off that the pair is not the want you want to read, discovering who is the couple shouldn't make you stop reading or else is because you can only see these people this way and you have a problem". Which is the speech of every t/b tag anti. "If you're liking the story why would you care who gets it in the ass?" Well maybe at that moment I was craving for other dynamic? Maybe I woke up wanting At and Bb and tomorrow I'll read the story with Ab and Bt, is it so wrong to want a tag to organize your reading??
you lost me at “every t/b tag anti,” I’ve never let anyone speak for me and I never will. if you’re specifically reacting to what I, me, myself said I stand by it, I don’t think wether someone tops or bottoms should change their personality or dynamic, there’s a difference between top and bottom and sub and dom and they aren’t interchangeable. that’s what I was saying, I actually didn’t saying ANYTHING about tagging or not tagging, I was merely commenting about the language being used around it. which makes me think you didn’t even read my post at all tbh.
someone topping or bottoming shouldn’t inherently change the dynamic. wether someone is a sub or a dom or anything has nothing to do with who’s doing what.
I hope that clears things up for you.
I’m kinda confused about the new vid that’s circulating around here, cuz didn’t mnh have a scar on his stomach?
hi hi!
he still does! the video I assume you’re talking about is the one with the white shirt? which shows a portion of his chest and like sternum area, i’m pretty sure mnhs scar would be closer to like his stomach stomach and like abdomen area.
I always assumed that since it was a surgery when he was younger it was probably like an appendectomy to remove his appendix or a cholecystectomy to remove his gallbladder or something since those are pretty low risk procedures and he’s never mentioned any continued issues???? and those scars are lower down and to the side so they wouldn’t be seen with his shirt being cut so low since it’s down the middle. but I have no clue what procedure he got done so who knows!
those are my guesses unless you’re talking about another video
Hi, I have no idea what gender of people that hn and lk like to date, but i find it highly unlikely that they are dating each other. it just seems super messy and bonkers to date your coworker. in their case it would be a coworker that you could not even change to a new job if things did not work out. i think dating someone in your active band seems like a crazy chance to take.
i love reading fic about them(fictional stories where they would not have to deal with the consequences of dating a coworker!), i believe they could be queer, it just does not make sense to me that they would be dating right now.
hi hi
you were really sweet so i’m not dissing you, i’m just wordy and long winded and have a lot to say.
you could be right, but just like I don’t think my answering you is going to change your mind, you sending this to me doesn’t really change mine. and I do think there’s something real when it comes to mnsg.
firstly, god I wish people didn’t date coworkers, i’ve personally NEVER worked anywhere where there wasn’t at least one couple or affair or tension having group on the staff. Would I date a coworker???? never willingly. but I don’t think that’s ever really stopped anyone.
I don’t think anyone CHOOSES to fall for a coworker, I don’t think anyone chooses who they fall for at all really. I think if people got to pick you they were in love with we wouldn’t call it falling in love, we wouldn’t call that love at all really, cause that would be logical and analytic decision making, and that takes so much humanity and personal feelings out of it, bleh not for me. falling in love is just that, it’s not a choice.
so yeah it probably IS messy and IS a little crazy for them to be in a relationship, but that doesn’t make it impossible. because you know what I think would be just as messy, a group of 8 men where two of them are clearly in love with each other and ARENT able to do anything about it. imagine that, imagine a world or scenario where the feelings are there, because again they’re feeling, and we can’t control them, and they didn’t have an outlet, they just had to pine and wallow in their feelings for ever. wouldn’t that be worse???? wouldn’t that be messier??? having to deal with jealousy or presumed unrequited love? that’s messy. that’s MESSIER in my opinion.
it’s definitely bonkers to date a coworker, I agree, but that doesn’t mean bonkers doesn’t happen. and i’m sure it’s been rough at times, I feel like we can even predict when things might have been rough for them in these circumstances. but people date coworkers, lots of people date lots of people that they shouldn’t. and jsut cause they’re celebrities doesn’t mean they don’t have the same messy lives behind the scenes.
yeah there's a big difference between 'fic that only focuses on a few members or just the couple' and 'fic that goes out of its way to include every member but one'
thank you! I thought I got that across in my first post by mentioned 7/8, but maybe I was too wordy and confusing 🙃 sometimes I say more than I need to and over complicate things. so sorry for everyone who was confused :(. I just don’t like when people are purposefully not including a single member… especially cause it always the same few that get left out :(
respectfully, i don't think that every member needs to be included in a fic. even for a cannon fic. i think that if you are focusing on certain dynamics adding in more people can weigh down what your writing is trying to evoke. people can think all of the guys are great and interesting with out centering a piece of writing on them.
hi hi!
I think my post was maybe taken out of context, despite me trying to add it.
Do I think every fic needs every member? no. I think there are plenty of times when you can focus on specific dynamics and do it well.
however, in the case I was posting about, I was reading a 45k word au, that had every member BUT one. the main ship was mnsg, and they were the main focus of the story, the other 5 members that were mentioned could have been irrelevant, they barely affected the plot. so it would have been incredibly easy to add the last missing member into the story as a side character.
it’s not that I think EVERY member needs to be in a fic, but I think when someone puts the effort to create a side story line for other members and obviously misses one it’s glaring purposeful.
this is my opinion, and we can absolutely disagree and that’s genuinely okay, but I couldn’t focus on anything else. when all 7 of them were in a scene together, I couldn’t help but think “dang where’s __?” “dang it really feels like they’re missing someone.” “why couldn’t __ have been added?”
absolutely agree that you can focus on dynamics and not have everyone in it. i’m sorry if my post seemed to condemn doing so, I shouldn’t have made such a broad statement. but when one person is glaringly missing, and the dynamic that is being written is the group as a whole it feels purposeful and distracting and I didn’t care for it.
but we can have different opinions and that’s okay!
Have skz said anything about the protests in Korea rn? Bc itzy xdinary heroes and nmixx have all posted abt it, along with lots of other idols in 4th gen encouraging fans to protest/stay safe and buying the protestors hot drinks (loona, txt, everglow, loosemble, ateez).
hi hi, I don’t know if i’m the best person to ask this tbh. I don’t have any of their 🫧 so i’m in the dark on most things they say on there. I know I heard someone say that hynjn alluded to the protests and staying warm outside, however that also could have been taken out of context. hopefully they will say something but I also don’t know because I know жdinary heroes already got their own song censored which is WILD. i’m not sure if the censoring differs from division to division, maybe that’s why they haven’t said anything? or maybe it’s because they’re been in japan? (those aren’t excuses, I just don’t know how much they’ve been on 🫧 to begin with, because I again don’t have anyone’s 🫧) i’m personally not going to hold my breath that they’ll say anything, since they’ve never been allowed to talk politics before, but if they do I would rely on my as your source, i’ve been incredibly sporadic on here recently and with the holidays my work is getting pretty busy. wish I had more help and information for you, sorry I don’t.
super happy other id0ls are speaking out tho, it’s really really nice to see the resistance to whatever censorship they’re under, they are people before they are their career :)
Okay so I need to scream about this to someone so take what I am about to say with a grain of salt 😅
I might be completely delusional but that blue pin with a heart that jsvng wore in his s0lo unv3il and that mnho was wearing at the last c0ncert, looks extremely similar to what is on the ecst4sy pill that R0m30 takes in R0me0 + Jvliet 🤨🫣
Like I know it's likely not but damn does it look almost identical 😭
IDk I've been trying to find the black and yellow one because I want to know what it says, but I still haven't been able to find that one 😕
The only queer person in that group is Felix, who is bi but still has a preference for women. The rest of them is straight and queerbaiting. Hope that clears things up
“has a preference for women” isn’t some gotcha moment… first off, did he tell you that? or are you just assuming so you still “have a chance” and also the “but still” is actually pretty offensive ngl, if anyone one bi having a preference one way or another doesn’t make them less bi, and it isn’t the gotcha moment that you think it is to speak as if he “still has a preference for women” somehow makes him being bi redeemable. being bi is great, being bi and having preferences is great and doesn’t make anyone anymore “straight”.
also people can’t queerbait. queerbaiting by definition is a marketing tool used for entertainment and fiction, the members of 5kz are real people so sorry bout that.
I wouldn’t waste my breath (well thumbs cause i’m typing) on anons like you but your language about bi people is actually super harmful and offensive! so hopefully you can take this as a moment to get educated, but since you spend your free time lurking in people’s retros and single handed fighting the fight for straight pride i’m sure you’re too busy to actually take anything in and reflect. but let’s hope this helps. :)
I think jsng has a gf because why did mno spend the day with hynjn for the day in Tokyo what did he do for a whole day.. he stayed to not make it suspicious while he is spending after concert day with his gf
sorry am i stupid or what’s so horrifically shocking about the plushy fic? it’s weird but like… is it disturbing? i haven’t read it but it just looks like a silly halloween fic lol so idk if im just being brainless?? someone said “i really hope the writer doesn’t have the actual plushies…” like they wanna call cps for some inanimate stuffed toys???
hi hi!
no I don’t get it either, I read the fic it was really cute! I deleted my twt because I didn’t want it to come of like I was hating on the author, when I was in fact question the op for being a weirdo to hate on it. the fic was like soooo cute and fun, people need to chillax, plushies fvcking each other is not worth all the headache their causing themselves.
Not gonna lie I kinda expected jsng to find out about everything and feel betrayed cause it's fucked up to hope to be asked out by someone you purposefully came onto to find out if they're able to cheat https://x.com/lisnoring/status/1863365722216288263?t=2HeDTQs8y5R4_O943KkM5Q&s=19
hi hi!
it’s DEFINITELY not a healthy start to a relationship, and that’s a big reason why I put the “I don’t support toxic relationships” because on a lot of front this thread highlights kind of an awful start to a relationship, and like irl I would not support any of my friends getting into a relationship that began like this.
however, it’s fiction, and I think that’s part of the fun! like we can imagine that before they got together mnh was honest with jsng and they talked it out and communicated, or we can imagine that they’re just so fated and perfect for each other that to them it didn’t matter the circumstances of before. but I kind of leave that up to you! :) I like to keep my endings semi vague, so the reader has the ability to impose their own wanted endings onto the story.
other than you thinking it’s fvcked up I hope you enjoyed the read! that’s all that really matters to me :))))
https://x.com/lisnoring/status/1856307142061363296?t=w-Lv4cmMtTmdFPxbQOFXcQ&s=19
I think many people are mistaking this as mnho 😭😭😭
It's hyvnjn actually
Minsung aren’t real, I met Lee Knows gf at a concert and she’s lovely
Why do you have to keep lying bout the socmed au and giving false hope? If you don’t want to continue anymore please just say you’re done for good and we will all respect your decision and honesty?
hey, so it’s people like you who actually make me not want to update, sorry about falling through on when I said i’d update but genuinely have had things come up to stop it.
if you’re only following me for the socmed au, kindly unfollow me cause I don’t know if I have anything concrete update date.
but anyways. thanks for making me feel like shit! hope you feel better.
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