hi hi

you were really sweet so i’m not dissing you, i’m just wordy and long winded and have a lot to say.

you could be right, but just like I don’t think my answering you is going to change your mind, you sending this to me doesn’t really change mine. and I do think there’s something real when it comes to mnsg.

firstly, god I wish people didn’t date coworkers, i’ve personally NEVER worked anywhere where there wasn’t at least one couple or affair or tension having group on the staff. Would I date a coworker???? never willingly. but I don’t think that’s ever really stopped anyone.

I don’t think anyone CHOOSES to fall for a coworker, I don’t think anyone chooses who they fall for at all really. I think if people got to pick you they were in love with we wouldn’t call it falling in love, we wouldn’t call that love at all really, cause that would be logical and analytic decision making, and that takes so much humanity and personal feelings out of it, bleh not for me. falling in love is just that, it’s not a choice.

so yeah it probably IS messy and IS a little crazy for them to be in a relationship, but that doesn’t make it impossible. because you know what I think would be just as messy, a group of 8 men where two of them are clearly in love with each other and ARENT able to do anything about it. imagine that, imagine a world or scenario where the feelings are there, because again they’re feeling, and we can’t control them, and they didn’t have an outlet, they just had to pine and wallow in their feelings for ever. wouldn’t that be worse???? wouldn’t that be messier??? having to deal with jealousy or presumed unrequited love? that’s messy. that’s MESSIER in my opinion.

it’s definitely bonkers to date a coworker, I agree, but that doesn’t mean bonkers doesn’t happen. and i’m sure it’s been rough at times, I feel like we can even predict when things might have been rough for them in these circumstances. but people date coworkers, lots of people date lots of people that they shouldn’t. and jsut cause they’re celebrities doesn’t mean they don’t have the same messy lives behind the scenes.

hi hi!

I think my post was maybe taken out of context, despite me trying to add it.

Do I think every fic needs every member? no. I think there are plenty of times when you can focus on specific dynamics and do it well.

however, in the case I was posting about, I was reading a 45k word au, that had every member BUT one. the main ship was mnsg, and they were the main focus of the story, the other 5 members that were mentioned could have been irrelevant, they barely affected the plot. so it would have been incredibly easy to add the last missing member into the story as a side character.

it’s not that I think EVERY member needs to be in a fic, but I think when someone puts the effort to create a side story line for other members and obviously misses one it’s glaring purposeful.

this is my opinion, and we can absolutely disagree and that’s genuinely okay, but I couldn’t focus on anything else. when all 7 of them were in a scene together, I couldn’t help but think “dang where’s __?” “dang it really feels like they’re missing someone.” “why couldn’t __ have been added?”

absolutely agree that you can focus on dynamics and not have everyone in it. i’m sorry if my post seemed to condemn doing so, I shouldn’t have made such a broad statement. but when one person is glaringly missing, and the dynamic that is being written is the group as a whole it feels purposeful and distracting and I didn’t care for it.

but we can have different opinions and that’s okay!

hi hi, I don’t know if i’m the best person to ask this tbh. I don’t have any of their 🫧 so i’m in the dark on most things they say on there. I know I heard someone say that hynjn alluded to the protests and staying warm outside, however that also could have been taken out of context. hopefully they will say something but I also don’t know because I know жdinary heroes already got their own song censored which is WILD. i’m not sure if the censoring differs from division to division, maybe that’s why they haven’t said anything? or maybe it’s because they’re been in japan? (those aren’t excuses, I just don’t know how much they’ve been on 🫧 to begin with, because I again don’t have anyone’s 🫧) i’m personally not going to hold my breath that they’ll say anything, since they’ve never been allowed to talk politics before, but if they do I would rely on my as your source, i’ve been incredibly sporadic on here recently and with the holidays my work is getting pretty busy. wish I had more help and information for you, sorry I don’t.

super happy other id0ls are speaking out tho, it’s really really nice to see the resistance to whatever censorship they’re under, they are people before they are their career :)

“has a preference for women” isn’t some gotcha moment… first off, did he tell you that? or are you just assuming so you still “have a chance” and also the “but still” is actually pretty offensive ngl, if anyone one bi having a preference one way or another doesn’t make them less bi, and it isn’t the gotcha moment that you think it is to speak as if he “still has a preference for women” somehow makes him being bi redeemable. being bi is great, being bi and having preferences is great and doesn’t make anyone anymore “straight”.

also people can’t queerbait. queerbaiting by definition is a marketing tool used for entertainment and fiction, the members of 5kz are real people so sorry bout that.

I wouldn’t waste my breath (well thumbs cause i’m typing) on anons like you but your language about bi people is actually super harmful and offensive! so hopefully you can take this as a moment to get educated, but since you spend your free time lurking in people’s retros and single handed fighting the fight for straight pride i’m sure you’re too busy to actually take anything in and reflect. but let’s hope this helps. :)

hi hi!

it’s DEFINITELY not a healthy start to a relationship, and that’s a big reason why I put the “I don’t support toxic relationships” because on a lot of front this thread highlights kind of an awful start to a relationship, and like irl I would not support any of my friends getting into a relationship that began like this.

however, it’s fiction, and I think that’s part of the fun! like we can imagine that before they got together mnh was honest with jsng and they talked it out and communicated, or we can imagine that they’re just so fated and perfect for each other that to them it didn’t matter the circumstances of before. but I kind of leave that up to you! :) I like to keep my endings semi vague, so the reader has the ability to impose their own wanted endings onto the story.

other than you thinking it’s fvcked up I hope you enjoyed the read! that’s all that really matters to me :))))

hi hi!

I hope you’re okay with me just taking this as an opportunity to yap about my fav movies.

these recs are for mnsg as well as my moots and oomfs.

Favorite movie(s) of all time are Now You See Me, and Now You See Me 2, I LOVE a heist and I think the movies are just very entertaining and a good time to watch with everyone.

my favorite “horror movie” is Trick or Treat, I put it in quotes cause it’s more of just like a movie? it’s not very scary so if anyone’s apprehensive about horror movies this one’s pretty tame, and it’s just like a cute lovely halloween movie.

for horror movie As Above So Below, any horror movie fans (I know jsng has been in a horror phase lately 👀) should watch this, I don’t get scared easily, and watch a lot of horror movies, but this one is very claustrophobic???? idk if that’s the right word, like it’s very very tense (made me feel similiar vibes as when I watch Haunting at Hill House, but like MORE) it’s also one of those movies that has like a deeper meaning and all that so that’s also fun!

my comfort movie? Happy Feet and Happy Feet 2, the ending of the second one makes me cry laugh, like CRY laugh I know i’m not the target audience, but those movies always bring a smile to my face.

a recent movie I watched that was AMAZING and id pay GOOD money to see mnsg watch was Under Paris, it’s about a shark… under paris, I think jsng would have a very similiar watching experience to me, where he’s just mind blown by the inaccuracies, but mnh would find it camp and amazing (which is is)

also there is a Shrek the Musical broadway recording on netflix. AMAZING and good, if you’re into musical theatre OR you’re open to having a good time (which mnsg would) it’s a ball of a time.

overall I have diverse (but very very good) movie taste and I think I could match their freaks when it comes to movies.