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What are your thoughts on Asa and Denji's relationship after this...arc?
I need to punt them off a cliff. I also still love them (version of their characters in my head) I wrote about my thoughts on their characters and relationship a few weeks ago in relation to a post i qrted tbh, so I'll share that one here rather than re-hash it, though keep in mind that it's a long ass thread lol. I've been simmering in these thoughts for a while now.
https://twitter.com/phantasmaphiIia/status/1812552202461892796
Barem spotted at a nearby konbini buying a red wig and pints of icecream !!
Nayuta's corpse will be the constant reminder for Denji to never let Asa go, sucks that Nayuta was used as a plot device for AsaDen, but that's the nature of the story. It's an AsaDen manga after all
fujimoto will have to personally drag me kicking and screaming to a sped-up film of the process of decomposition taking over nayuta's corpse to convince me that she's permanently dead. especially for a horseman of the apocalypse (even if much weaker now), especially for one of kiga's sisters, especially with her character weight in relation to makima barely having scratched the surface. fujimoto is not gege in terms of character deaths, he works with death differently in his stories and I am deeply unconvinced that he'd let a character such as nayuta go like that.
I'm also very doubtful in people discussing nayuta as fodder for asaden, even with my current criticisms of part two's current writing. her character goes beyond them when it comes to the wider scheme of the storyline, and personally, I think nayuta's repeated expression of disinterest for humanity and growing curiosity for devils is going to take a more important focus soon, if her death is meant to symbolize her transition from humanity (tied down by denji, who abandoned her) to hell (guided by kiga, who offers her acceptance of her nature.) (contrasting conflict of family and what it means for the control devil)
famine brings back nayuta as makima (she needs the ruthless makima back to handle the apocalypse, but this time as a pawn under HER control) but the one thing that this new nayukima keeps from nayuta is her love for denji...
aaahh. you know, in the depths of my self-dms, I've etched out a detailed fic premise around a similar concept. much more surreal and dreamlike in setting, but features control as a protagonist at odds with herself and on a search to find her lost family, the term nebulous in meaning depending on who she leans into being, the image of that person always shifting and blurring in her memories. I love this kind of concept, wish I had the confidence and motivation to write it out tbh........
have you watched/read Inuyasha? if so what do you think of InuSess?
volume 18 cover leaked!! https://imgur.com/a/ojavomq (caption this)
Hey. Do you remember this Korean artist from 2021 who drew shota denji with yoshida/makima. I was searching for the artist and saw your twt about them. Do you know their handle?
hello, sorry for the long wait time to answer this, but yes i do know their handle! it's heureoreo! took me a few minutes scouring niche and inactive yoshiden art accounts to find one of their posts. it's been a while since I heard of them, they're still active though! I wonder how you even found my tweets about them askjhgh surely those were harder to find since there's no tagging whatsoever haha.
I'd also like to point out that Kiga has rescued someone from decapitation in the past. It makes sense she could also preserve a devil's head and keep it alive. Would explain why Kiga is eating more than usual. She's eating for two - actually, what if Kiga has to eat enough food for all the devils she keeps as her pets? would be a cool explanation for her voracious appetite
you know, even after this recent chapter, this has still been on my mind. kiga can ressurect dead beings, quote unquote. but at what price? i'd like it if nayuta was brought back to life, but coming back wrong. it would maintain the consequences and stakes of denji symbolically sacrificing her to become csm, while also allowing for her character to continue to exist with a narrative weight without being snuffed too early for shock value. still crossing my fingers for this, but at this point it's not a prediction so much as it is a prayer and begging.
rey i'm like 80% sure that the pic that prompted this recent P2 discussion was made by micro (https://imgur.com/a/oV2EDXe if you don't know the lore) and I find the fact that 1) he made some legitimately good points 2) you wrote a great thread in response to the criticism he faced, fucking hilarious and beautiful
imagine being a famine fan and getting a dumb food gag every time she appears
my girl hasn't slayed since the start of the cult arc im in pain. I get that it's her gimmick to seem harmless and weak for gaslighting purposes but. contrast that with her introduction in part two.... sniffles. at least some artists are finally beginning to ackowledge her cannibalistic potential though, i will say that. get with the program folks!!!
tv Criston Cole is the worst example of where you initially can't be sure if the writers are making something really fucking stupid or if they're hiding some deeper complexity under that but most normies can't see it... but then it turns out it's just really fucking stupid through and through and the idea of any complexity was just the viewer's wishful thinking.
LMAO i mention him once and you crash in with the pitchforks. criston infuriates me as a person and i pray for his downfall every day, but i think it's really funny how ever since rheanyra rejected him he's been just. standing there. seething. hating. experienced an absolutely godawful not-exactly-consensual-and-somewhat-coerced-on-his-end situationship with the heir to the throne, broke his most important vow to the realm because of her, got discarded once she got bored, watched her get everything she wants (his pov, not mine), became an open misogynyst and has since then made it his mission to be rheanyra's number one obstacle and hater every step of her way for the rest of his mangled life. he's even fucking rheanyra's other ex in mutual hateful trauma bonding now, he's truly hitting that sigma haterism grindset. i sense him as a walking consequence to rheanyra's thoughtless actions and privileged entitlement that is meant to bite her in the ass later, but yeah beyond that he's just. There. recycling his trauma with alicent. creating problems on purpose. decaying, bothered, unmoisturized. rancid little cryptid man with one function only.
https://imgur.com/a/cmyUPUO where were you? I thought we were supposed to meet at the premiere..
ahem akshually kiga plans to steal denji from asa in order to starve her out of love and ultimately control her. NTR arc begins next chappy.
I want the fire devil to be this ginormous, Ragnaros sized devil and have Barem be on a first name basis with him. Just let the fire and flamethrower devils be bros, Fuji!!
first of all that would be so fucking funny in terms of tiny flamethrower hybrid and huge raging forest fire primal fear i agree. second of all i would kill for eldritch volatile all-consuming horror of fire being brought to life. third of all, this makes me giggle a little ; when the fire devil was first namedropped, a friend and i theorized on it having a god/demi-god inspired potential relationship with creations related to it, eg fears that originate from the primal fear of fire, which would bind the flamethrower devil hybrid to its flesh and existence. concepts build and stack on top of each other, so it's not too far fetched to think of it having a deeper connection to barem. some inconsistencies make this idea a bit finnicky at the edges to maintain solid worldbuilding (i build this logic to connect the war devil with its weapons, so it'd be a bit hard to allow a character like barem to be both bound to fire and war? if that makes sense), so i'm not setting my hopes up too much for anything in canon, but it is definitely very fun to think about!
One thing i like about P2 is how ominous Pochita looked both times he popped up in Denji's mind. I hope Fuji triples down on him being Denji's ally, but not necessarily humanity's friend. (We had that a bit in late P1 when he abducted Kobeni to go on a date for Denji, when he killed that random icecream vendor for no reason)
"You wanna be famous and make a lot of money? Sounds fun Denji!"
"You wanna fuck devils up? Hell yeah that's what the chainsaws are for bro"
"You wanna rape that girl? Aight whatever makes you happy Denden"
"You want to burn down humanity because they killed your adopted devil daughter-sister? Say no more."
!!!! i've been really intrigued by this new development too! tbh the chapters surrounding nayuta's dream, denji's nightmare, yoshida's place in public safety and the following dismemberement have been a really nice breath of fresh air after the growing stagnancy i've been personally feeling around part two at that time. "how can you do that without your legs?" gave me such thrilling goosebumps, a nice reminder that pochita is a devil too, and that it extends to his pure love for denji. this train of thought compliments the conversation that nayuta creates around the theme of nature versus nurture nicely, her conflict with denji, as she eggs him on to also abandon humanity, detach himself from its identity, and embrace the devil in him more. his desire for family in her, a devil, outweighing his connection to humans, yet the sacrifice he makes out of her to emulate the role of the csm. there's something here to dig into with these three: in how pochita requests that denji take the new control devil under his wing and grant her a world equal to her heart, in how makima rejected her nature as a devil to find that lost sense of belonging within humanity, and in how nayuta opposes her by rejecting humanity (for what i suspect are similar reasons no less! makima is rejected by her sisters, her kin, as humans do with nayuta!) and wishing to embrace her nature and kinship with devils and the horsemen instead. pochita putting the emphasis on the control devil and the world she needs rather than the good of humanity as a whole is a distinction worth noting in contrast with his care and love for denji, i like it and would love to see if there's more to it!
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