HMMMMMMMMM MMMM ummmm 🤔 man i do not have an easy answer to this one lollll

okay, first point - despite all of ivan's...(waves hand) everything, to me, he reads like a really really subby top. in terms of, whilst having sex, he loses himself in it and is capable of dropping but i think he kind of enters an altered state re: having sex with till anyways LOL

and to that point, i think till would. mm. he wouldn't be a bad dom, he just doesn't get it. he's like in tears like "why do you want me to hit you, we're going out" and ivan is like "it's for my penis" 🙈 till is conflicted. (till, to me, is also super vanilla in the first place so he's like can we just go back to doing it missionary or doggie style or giving each other lazy bjs/handjobs etc please i liked that

to the second point, i.e. ivan and bondage. i don't actually think he would derive much out of tying till up. NOT that he wouldn't love the artistry of something like shibari, rather. just tying till up for the pleasure of having control over till...is something i don't think ivan would particularly be into. like. what entices him about cornering till is how much till is like 💢 calm down you fucking sex pest and likes to fight back

maybe...there's something to be said for the trust of it all, nonsexually, and ivan just tying him up to admire how pretty till looks and shower him with compliments until till explodes...i could be down for that 🤤

third point - would till enjoy it? touched briefly on this above re: till being a conflicted dom (not unwilling he just doesn't really get it? i do think sinking into subspace would be sosososo SO easy for him (he's emotional and he wants to let go of all of his rampant thoughts for a while and ivan is down to drive all the thoughts out of till's head any time lol)

long story short, idk. (shrug) they would need a lot more communication to happen to pull off bdsm successfully, i fear, and neither of them are built for that lol