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We can't tell anyone what to do or how to feel, but when I saw that we couldn't even rejoice like you guys for the siren that we waited so long for, I realized again that we are all different. y'all have excitement and we have a lot of stress and anxiety. And it's almost certain that Seunghan won't be there, but no one will care and they'll be here tomorrow posting siren snippets. We've never been able to share the same feelings with anyone for months.
i don't know but i was nervous about siren exactly because of hani (still am) and iām speculating and half nervous and excited abt the mini album exactly also because of hani. donāt create yourself an imaginary bubble like that because a lot of people are also under a lot of stress and anxiety, not just those who bias hani but also literally everyone else that supports him and is looking forward to his comeback. as of now iām choosing to be hopeful that heāll be there for sirenās ful ver. iām not giving up on him
Siren full version will be Seunghanās big comeback believe it!
letās manifest together š§š»āāļø
This ābe kind rewindā concept is not something to happy about for ot7. It literally saying they will redo the GAG era with 6 members. Erase 7 members memories and redo the whole thing as 6.
I am sharing with you a comment I saw. If they do something like this, it would be the biggest nonsense, injustice, disrespect I have ever seen. I hope they don't even think of such a thing because the moment they dare to do it, it's all over here. and if people still remain silent and accept it and move on, I wish the worst for everyone from the bottom of my heart
we donāt know anything yet but i hope this isnāt whatās coming because theyāll be making such a big, big mistake. i donāt wanna get ahead of myself though because like i said we donāt know anything yet
I ask you sincerely why people tend to oppose the moment Seunghan's talents start being talked about. He's clearly the all rounder ace of the group along with Wonbin, maybe we can add Sohee to them. There is no problem when other members are praised, no one opposes or tries to put the praised member aside and highlight other members, but whenever Seunghan is praised, especially in dance, Shotaro and Wonbin solo stans immediately write and share something to overshadow his talent. This caught my attention a lot. If it was just once, I wouldn't have cared, I would have said it was my delulu, but they did it over and over again. Seunghan hasn't had enough time to show himself, but he's in a position to be considered a main dancer, but people insist on putting him behind the wontaro duo. The one that Wonbin calls the most trusted member on stage, the one who controls all the members when he is on stage, sometimes even directing Wonbin to get into the right position.
This fandom has always ignored Seunghan's talents, never giving him the recognition he deserves.
I was shocked that no one mentioned Seunghan in the early days when Talk Saxy was clearly the era of 03z. I wondered if I was seeing it differently or if people were just blind to it. After the hiatus, slowly his talents are being recognized and praised, and that's something that feels very bittersweet, because we saw that even when he was at his best, they left him behind and called others not to appreciate him.
Anyway, I hope Seunghan comes back to the group as soon as possible and gets the recognition he deserves from both the company and the fans. Because so far, neither the company has given him what he deserves according to his positions (we know the scarcity of vocal parts) nor this fandom (because I think everyone loves influence) ...
I donāt understand why youāre asking me this but I do agree with a lot of your sentiments. I feel them all for all the members however. Especially for wonbin seunghan and shotaro since theyāre my faves. It also upsets me when people say something along the lines of ātheyāre this so they cannot be thatā.
Let me address a few certain things.
āI was shocked that no one mentioned Seunghan in the early days when Talk Saxy was clearly the era of 03z. I wondered if I was seeing it differently or if people were just blind to it.ā About talk saxy era, you probably havenāt seen it but i always said itās the 03z who owned that era, I still stand by that. TMI lol but I was expecially addicted to their duo part before the āletās kick itā in the MV. Iāve always loved Seunghan Talk Saxy and if anyone disagrees when I say he owned that then theyāre pretty stupid and the hate is forced. Even Wonbin himself believes so and has said it himself that seunghan fits ts the best.
āShotaro and Wonbin solo stans immediately write and share something to overshadow his talent.ā Now this. Donāt get me wrong. Itās not an isolated thing for the two of them. This can apply even to ppl who support SH. If what pushed you to send this to me is because of my recent tweets, I would like to clarify something. I saw a tweet that undermines WBās vocal talent while defending š«§, and that really upset me because why canāt fans just recognize BOTH of them and their talents. Itās really not that hard to praise a member without having to reduce another oneās talents. As for me Iāve always believed and referred to wonbin and seunghan as ace duo. Thereās no need to limit anyone in RIIZE, literally. Like Iāve said in my priv it really confuses me because isnāt it a good thing for a member to have a lot to offer to the table? And as for RIIZE it just so happens that all of them excel at more than one thing. To me as a fan thatāll always be a good thing to me. I canāt wait for him to be back too because well, he has so much to offer. We have so much to see from him. Sorry if this response is a little disorganized..
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im loving these two as of the moment !
but honestly tho, why do u over edit your pictures? i mean u look quite good but the background seems warped, mostly the body part huhu
? im genuinely confused are you a bot bec this doesnt make sense dkfnfkfjd
i'm sorry you seem to be getting so many weirdos on here š you're truly one of the few sane and non-irritating briize left š
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Why do you think I'm trying to lead you to boycott? I already know very well that as long as your main favorites continue, you will continue, no matter what. (Be all other big and individual ot7 accounts, because none of them have seunghan as their bias)
So there is no need for empty excuses and pointing fingers at others.
People need to experience some pain themselves, and when that time comes, I will talk to everyone here again.
you sound just like an account i recently just blocked. suit yourself.
the reason I don't trust seunghan's fans they still support ānomad_RII7E, most of them hide behind OT7, but they don't care about the rest of the members! at least akgaes are honest and not hypocrites like them
i donāt like you generalizing them eitherā¦literally not every one of them is like that. i wonāt excuse akgaes either bec regardless of it theyāre hyprocrites or not they still throw hate towards the other members (among other problematic behaviors) and nothing can excuse that for me
There are so many things I want to say, but I know you won't understand me. I have been so hurt and disappointed for four months that I find it hard to find words to express my feelings.
But I'm shocked that people have turned this place into a war zone lately, I'm sorry but I think everyone is attacking hongjjanggu. I'm shocked that some subfandoms are interacting with people who are clearly akgae just to be against the boycott and make them look bad. And they defend the account against the boycott and say 'what can an account defending harmless members do to you'. Do you really believe that this account was created with good intentions? It's clearly an account created by akgae and solo stans to discredit and spite hjg. And the other thing that caught my attention is that with the boycott discussions, suddenly new accounts are popping up and attacking hongjjanggu. Isn't that very clear? They are clearly doing something planned and those who can't talk on their main accounts are doing what they want. I can't believe what I'm seeing when I read some of the posts. I don't know how long this is going to go on, but it's clear that there is a witch hunt against hjg, even if nobody wants to admit it. Even some suspicious accounts are opened and they make themselves look like sh Stan and say things against other members and the fandom and then these accounts are suddenly closed. None of this seems normal to me.
oh wait this is the first part i think. iām so sorry i think i replied to the wrong message š my first reply was supposed to be for this message. i agree so much with your second message, iām still in disbelief about ppl making fake narratives and creating a whole issue about chanyoung visiting his friends and family in the US. like i said though privately, it was supposed to be a healing time for him because thatās where he grew up with?? those are the people he spent his formative years with and probably lots of his core memories with? and for people in the internet to ruin that for him for some clicks and dopamine boost itās so damn evil. not one of these boys deserve it.
I wonder how those who insult Hongjjangu every day here would feel and what they would do if they were in the same situation? Do they seriously ask themselves that? People who make a big fuss when their members are subjected to even the slightest mistreatment find it exaggerated that seunghan fans are upset. They say if you are going to leave the fandom, leave and let us relax, we will continue to grow anyway? What?? You're going to sincerely move on by losing a member? Wow, that's one of the most selfish things I've ever seen. I hope they can have some empathy before something worse happens to them, but maybe they had to go through some things to understand better, huh?
this is part 2 of your vent i think? (i said my piece on your message earlier)
You can't imagine how disappointed I was when I saw some members solo stan saying š«§ was wrong and deserved all this. I want what I see to be a joke, but it's not, it's accounts that are here every day and those who claim to be ot7 continue to interact with them, why? Because their bias is the same?? I mean, we're saying that a young person who is clearly a victim and who is experiencing events out of his control is guilty, that he's ruining the image of the group, and most of us don't mind interacting with these accounts because deep down inside we agree with it. I'm going crazy seeing what's going on here, we're blaming him for things that happened pre-debut and images that leaked out of his private space completely out of his control. What should these boys do, should they not live a normal human life? For example, Anton met his friends after years and took a photo, what could be more normal than that? And his friend posted the photo on her account with only relatives, so what? So what should we say, Anton should be careful, his friends should be careful? Can there be such nonsense? Why should these children have to live in constant worry and fear because some psychopaths will interfere in their private lives and even get close to their relatives.
What I have realized in this process is that people are selfish, selfish and self-centered. And never empathize.
leaving it as is since i think you just wanted to vent (i donāt mind though) but let me add that no matter how much i agree with a tweet or a sentiment iāll never interact with an akgae and lately iāve been seeing more and more people doing so and i hope they become more careful? . also i donāt wanna generalize the whole fandom either because i know weāre not all apathetic. perhaps a lot of them just took some time off and became more quiet than usual. also i guess itās because we have differences in what we believe in and what we decided to do despite wanting the same thing. the current state of this fandom isnāt the best as of the moment (it is by far one of the worst in my experience too btw). i donāt generalize hjgs the same way i donāt generalize byeolz despite having so many akgaes from day 1 lol. itās not that black and white for me.
What if the cb is ot6 but right at the end of the mv they show Seunghanās silhouette š„¹
no wait bec thats exactly how i hoped love 119 would be like
How come you say you're boycotting when you don't even fully participate in Seunghan hours, and when you've talked about Seunghan so little in four months? Most of us have not been able to watch 6 members' content for months anyway. This is not for the boycott, this makes us sad, but now we can at least support something by sharing, right? But most accounts like you don't do this and I'm sure you will all stop the 'so-called' boycott once the CB teasers start dropping. The boycott you haven't done anyway. and then you'll say Seunghan needs time so let's wait, while at the same time you'll be angry at hongjjanggu for not quietly waiting for an uncertain future. How logical is it to leave the child's fate in the hands of SM? What's the point of waiting with empty hope unless we show that we want it? Briizville is the worst fandom experience for me because almost everyone is hypocritical and only focused on their own favorites.
funny because iām boycotting for my own reasons and youāre here literally invalidating that because it doesnāt live up to your own standards (?). itās like i have no authority whatsoever over my OWN account. ignoring the comment of me not fully participating during seunghan hours too since you donāt know even what goes on behind closed doors. also just so you know this message didnāt motivate me to join the boycott if thatās what youāre hoping to do, but iām doing it anyway and iām entitled to act according to my own judgement. i wonāt continue the boycott if it does more harm than good for the group. like i said before, it seems to me no matter how accounts act here people will have something to say, i know this for a fact now but you just reminded me to get used to it at this point. another thing i find funny is you including me in your generalization of being mad at hongjjangus. where did that come from exactly? lastly i will say it in public, iām not responsible for your fandom experience so i donāt see the point of you saying briizeville is the worst experience for you here. iām not having a grand time here either but iām sticking around because at the end of the day i love RIIZE and i donāt fully care about not participating in stan twitter either, iāve lived like that for sungtaro for years. idk but it seems like youāre making an enemy out of me and commenting as though my support for seunghan is a fraud. i know it better than anyone else and i donāt see you having the right to telling me that it is becauseā¦ what exactly do you know anyway? youāre obviously not a close friend of mine for you to say something like this. i hate sounding so defensive but at this point whatever honestly lol
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