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I THINK THE WORST PART IS THAT ALMOST EVERYONE HIKARI HOLDS IN HIGH REGARD EITHER VIEWS HIM NEGATIVELY OR HAS COMPLICATED FEELINGS ON HIM FKDGDKHSJ o|-< how is hikaris life to the point where his antagonistic relationship with his biological brother is the most straightforward relationship he has. me with my self indulgent hc where hikari is a disney princess because if he cant be liked by people he needs to be liked by all manner of animals (delusionally spawned from that one cutscene at the start where hikari rides a horse. horsegirl hikari is real. TO ME)

i do like to hc that hikaris ch5 is one of, if not the last chapter to be done in an order that makes most sense sequentially...... cause ironically enough. his final chapter is actually one of the least urgent FKDHKHDS everyone else aside from throne has a very clear deadline (even agneas dance off ๐Ÿ˜ญ) or an active threat for their final chapters which cant be put off so. once everyone elses business is done and dusted hikari just brings the entire gd cavalry to take back ku. oboro watching from his perch as a multicoloured rainbow group of travelers crest a sand dune and approach threateningly

i fr thought that hikaris story would end with him accepting his shadow cause of yin yang imagery ykno..... needs to be balanced..... and methinks it would be more compelling if hikari embraced that part of him which also reflects all of kus atrocities and still does his best to carve a new path forward for ku..... and also how that might affect his final confrontation with oboro who was consumed by the shadow..... but whatever i can be delusional and pretend thats how his arc Did conclude in the 8path 2 longfic that exists solely in my brain

oh my god i was only thinking of older!ritsu from his perspective BUT YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT WITH HIKARI CLINGING TO RITSU AS AN ELDER BROTHER FIGURE TO FILL IN THE VOID MUGEN LEFT...... (has been converted to an older ritsu believer) this really shaping up to be one of those brain chemistry altering homoerotic friendships that scar you for life. regarding hikaris ch4 banter with throne, i think def a part of his competitiveness came from his childhood rivalry with ritsu, knowing them ritsu would Hate for hikari to pull his punches and hikari himself doesnt want to disrespect ritsu by holding back
FUCK hikari being jaded after his mom got killed in part to two of his elder bro figures actions, but seeing ritsu and mikkas relationship and the lengths they go to to look out for the other helps him restore his sense of hope
ritsu growing up with hikari who is this unattainable ideal he can never reach or surpass, even though he is the older one, and then years down the line finding out that all this time hikari had a natural inherent advantage due to his birthright that he has always been rejecting..... ๐Ÿซ 

honestly yea i wonder about how genuine temenos' faith is.... most times it seems like hes super flippant about it but then other times he sounds like he means it, and ofc how he actively always tries to rely on his own ability and look at things from an objective standpoint..... i was thinking that maybe unlike the majority of adherents who find strength and hope in religion, temenos draws those same things from the sense of community derived from having the same belief???? so he himself doesnt really put too much stock into the practice but still uses it as a means to connect with others?? which would kinda explain why he tends to sound more earnest when invoking the sacred flame stuff to other people..... idk lol but ofc growing up in a church he will still feel the religious guilt creep in no matter how detached he might be from it all LMAOOO i would know as a person who spent a decade in catholic schools and still experiences religious guilt despite not having a belief ๐Ÿ‘
๐Ÿ‘€ hikari who gives thanks both at the start and end of his meals getting curious about temenos' meal rituals since he is also the only other traveler who has such habits ๐Ÿ‘€

HELPPPP [ku npc vc] why does the king of ku/that strange proselytiser call you babygirl FKFHDKGSF...... im just thinking about how hikari is probs too busy to know too much of the rumour mill but temenos who comes and goes often and mingles with the townfolk is just subjected to all the harassment first hand..... him and his ambiguous relationship with the king is the hot topic amongst middle aged and elderly gossip circles at teahouses and they are NOT shy about it. every day temenos gets subjected to gossipmongering in ku then is ran circles around by beastling children who poke at his prone body lying in the dirt when he collapses from exhaustion (he is content)

REALLLL idc "doubt is what i do" / "then let trust be what i do" is so canon to me. i was kinda disappointed temenos' banter with hikari didnt touch on that betrayal at all, and that throne didnt even Have a banter with him..... would have wanted to see one of them warn hikari pre rai mei and the other advice him post rai mei but whatever its fine. wanted to see a therion/cordelia esque convo regarding trust between those three but ITS FINE.
YEA FAIR ochette didnt escape unscathed either ๐Ÿ˜ญ stormhail (derogatory)
FKFBDKDBS one never truly escapes the haikyuu trenches <- person who got dragged back into it during the height of covid
osvalds vidania dialogue was really short but it felt genuine, like he def ended up in a vastly better position than when he started his journey and hes truly reignited his sense of hope and it shows..... on the other hand temenos sounds so bleak, as though he doesnt truly believe what hes saying, and hikaris being centered around oboro is so ๐Ÿซ  they have been through the Horrors^TM
and that really lines up with temenos' character doesnt it...... taking on the dirty work to pave the way for someone brighter, like he did with roi, trying to protect the people he sees as the embodiment of light and hope..... throws up and dies

yea i really would wanna know more of what happened during the timeskip in hikaris ch1..... im sure ritsus resentment built up for a Long time but i keep wondering whether there was some straw that finally broke his back in those three years..... i can kinda excuse that maybe ritsu just spent all his time in the castle but its kinda strange that hikari didnt even see mikka either, whos still been living in castle town this entire time

FNDBDSHDM youre so real for that. hikaris ponytail can stay on during sex if hes lying on his front [i am forcibly pulled off stage] this reminds me but ykno of those posts where men say they started developing a pavlovian reaction to their girlfriends pulling their hair back into a ponytail? that but temenos when hikari lets his hair down fhdjshsds [i am forcibly removed from the room] i still think it was a missed opportunity to not get more hairstyle variation for hikari (osvald too), i wanted to see him in a bun. or a braid. or half up half down :( i really liked seeing the different hairstyles primrose and ophilia got (apothecary primrose my beloved) so i was hoping the long haired men in 8path 2 would get that same energy

in pursuit of elena doesnt quite have the same ring to it but it reminds me of haanits for master..... and yea hikaris motif being for home is so ๐Ÿฅน his goal was the one that def snagged my interest most pre release. for kingship works too but i like to think of his home as encompassing both ku itself, which he does love dearly, and also the people he loves..... calling back to his promises to tsuki, his father, and ritsu to make ku a better place once he takes up the crown.....
I SAWWWW YOUR FLOWER ARTWORK you are always so correct ๐Ÿ™ it really is interesting to think about how the ๐ŸŒผ๐Ÿ—๏ธ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ๐Ÿฏ quartet in particular have such close and diverse relationships with death.... hikari and throne both bring death but for hikari its a personal failure whilst for throne its a mark of success, castti tries to prevent death or at least make peace with it, and temenos usually only arrives at the scene of death and works with corpses. considering the roles they play with death, throne and temenos can separate themselves enough from it to not be extremely affected by the deaths that dont personally involve them, but yea for castti and hikari they both see every death as a preventable thing they simply failed to stop.... i think castti in particular is self aware enough to know that its unhealthy to think that way (esp post trousseau) and that as a professional healer she needs to have that sort of boundary but she clearly still cant help but feel guilt over all the people she couldnt save, whilst for hikari its very much like a. 'my ideals werent enough to convince them' self flagellation thing....

๐Ÿ‘€ omg.... ๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘€๐Ÿ‘€ its not even entirely unfeasible either cause the moonshades ultimate goal in ku is to get ahold of mugens darkblood blade and after kuras death it seemed like no one aside from rai mei would have noticed hikari disappear. oboro wanted hikari to turn traitor and overthrow mugen, so he also purposely fanned the flames between mugen and hikari, in an effort to embitter hikari completely..... maybe also advised jiro to stay distant from hikari in order to protect him from mugen, and tried to isolate hikari completely before the unexpected appearance of ritsu and mikka foiled that plan..... me, looking at any aspect of hikaris backstory: how can i make this about oboro

seeing hikaris ch1 gang interacting with his shadow will fix me (a lie) (i would have become more insane) cause all three of them would have such different reactions to it..... oboro in particular intrigues me cause if we're going by the delusion that his initial plan was to try and turn hikari over to the moonshade orders side, he probs would looked at hikari and went "i can make him worse" fkfbdldbds
i also think it would have been so cool and epic (read: traumatising) for hikaris shadow to make a proper appearance in his ch4 tbh cause rai mei having to come face to face with the shadow again but this time without her brother protecting her, especially in this time of uncertainty for her where she has to choose between placing her faith in hikari or submitting to mugen...... giggles insanely
EXACTLY temenos' appeal is that hes just Some Guy..... hikaris everything and hes just temenos /j but fr i think a lot about how temenos could have probs lived out his whole life in peace as an ordinary cleric but he chose to take on all the burdens the dead left behind and suffered for it...... he may act soooo aloof but so many of the major turning points in his life was him acting out of love o|-<

FJDVDKGDNDHS THEYRE SO FUNNY i think for hikari sparring is an honest measure of skill, and he feels uncomfortable having to deceive others which is a needed skill in poker..... even tho he himself is perfectly fine being the deceived ๐Ÿ˜ญ me pairing up the most dishonest ass travelers with the most painfully honest traveler and studying their interactions like lab rats. but it really was such an unexpected surprise that hikaris earnestness somehow managed to break down temenos' and thrones walls LIKE THAT IS CANON. THEY WERENT EVEN LIKE DRUNK OR ANYTHING WHAT THE HELL. lives in my mind rent free

fnfhdkdhks yea thats fair, i think of hikari and agnea purely in a platonic/familial kinda dynamic, never really vibed with them as a romantic pair even tho its obvious there was a lot of art and text hinting at them. then again tbf i am Extremely picky about my m/f ships and get easily annoyed when it seems like im being pushed to like a specific one ehe.... side note the idea of agnea and hikari becoming in laws once pala and mikka officially get together is hilarious to me FJDBDKBD i think hikari king of ku should have formally invited the travelers down to the mourning festival when almost every single one of them lost someone of importance in their journeys to kickstart the epilogue but hey thats just my opinion!!!!

ARGHHHHHH the fact that theyre both so covered up makes me even more insane when i think about those accidental fleeting touches against the small exposed bits of their skin..... (fainting at the sight of a victorian maidens ankle energy) i indulge in the thought of temenos having to get close to heal a head wound on hikari and accidentally brushing his fingers against hikaris neck when he pulls away [dies]
temehika hivemind realโ‰๏ธ it really is so funny that theres such a common recurring theme in temehika works fmfdkdhss we have a Type ๐Ÿ˜” something something about how both temehikas nighttime path actions are specifically about getting more information when theyre both individually hiding so much hehehe (just ignore how hilarious hikaris bribe would be in universe) not to mention how temenos coerce could specifically interact with hikaris shadow

also RAAAAAHHHHHHHH๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ @ the spyxfamily temehika art i was the one who sent that ask fkdbdkdhs im not even a Huge sxf fan but the thoughts been living in my head ever since i noticed the similarities both character and design wise..... they are so gorjus ๐Ÿซถ the yuri throne addition is so cute too fjdgshgs They <3

mugen vs hikari is fr the most straightforward hero vs villain that we get in octo2 like, even with chars like kaldena and petrichor('s darklings) you kinda feel bad for them bc arcanette manipulated them but mugen and hikari are just how siblings are. dialed up to 11 (JK)
ok but you're so real for that bc i was so sad that hikari parted with his horse after the ch1 ending like ...? if you could give us a ship as a new mode of transportation i wish we got horses too!! for no reason other than to see hikari run around the overworld on a horse!! i think it would be cute to see temehika on a horseriding date too bc temenos would naturally have to sit with his legs on the side like. princess style LOL idk if you saw the totk screenshot of my teal horse named temenos but i had a dumb idea of hikari owning that horse (temenos: did you miss riding me that badly) JFHGKJHAKJG

that's true... me finishing hikari's final chapter first also means he was crowned king and then fucked off to the other 7 corners of solistia LMAOO
yeah me being kinda dissatisfied with hikari's ending is exactly why i'm working on a teme"hika" fic (stop lying you're just horny) oghdjfkhgh i think it has a lot of interesting potential with the inconclusiveness at the end but.. man... okay you guys want temenos to be the one who exorcises him so badly (delusional)

ough with throne also being older than him and a sword user, it'd be nice if their sibling-y relationship sort of reminded hikari of ritsu.. damn hikari how come you get two sibling proxies ((
god... ritsu and mikka were probably the only real interactions hikari had with people outside of the castle too, i think his relationship with them really did shape his ideologies later in life... o<-<

oo that's a really interesting way to put it, because it is quite clear that temenos doesn't agree with relying on the gods but he doesn't actually say anything when crick says "you don't even believe in your own gods, do you?" which makes me think even temenos himself isn't fully decided where he stands on that... in a way i think after arcanette is taken care of, he'd feel... better? about trusting the church and its beliefs in a more genuine way... of course, arcanette doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he still feels like the gods abandoned him when he needed them most but i still like to think part of why he was so compelled to reveal the truth was because of his own attachment to the church
WAIT you're so right i didn't make the connection that hikari would also have such habits... (<- east asian and yet) that's so cute actually like imagining them just saying it out of habit and then they look at each other over the dining table, and it sparks a little conversation since i don't think any of the others would have similar habits bc of their backgrounds...

YESS temenos being harassed by the ku neighbourhood aunties LMAOGJKAJHKA i still find it really funny that reiza (ch3 crackridge npc) calls him cute like canonically the type to be doted on by older women (?) or something like that.. i like the idea of temehika slowburn where they're intimate with each other but not to the point of it being explicitly romantic, just two people who find comfort in each other's presences but are too afraid to give the relationship a name in case it ruins what they have... but anyway it would be really funny if what prompts one of them to finally take the next step was a particularly nosy auntie HAHAH

fr tho like obviously darius' betrayal has a huge impact on therion but it feels so funny putting him next to hikari like (image: hikari going "first time?") damn i really do wish hikari gets massive trust issues </3 team asano said hmm nevermind we should make them play poker instead and i respect them for that.
I HAVE THE HAIKYUU PANEL OPEN i will draw it sometime. thinking about temenos and kazan meeting in montwise and they're immediately sus of each other
i know that for gameplay purposes it's your protag that stands forward to respond to oboro in vidania but like, given temenos' first line "It's true that my journey has been fraught with loss." it makes me think about the possibility of oboro directing his words to temenos specifically in that instance... haha...... oeughuthguh squeezing him

tbh i always thought octopath npcs felt really underdeveloped except for the ones that sort of. took up most of that particular character's story (erhardt and crick) and the results really show in the official npc popularity polls... like i think it's sad how little we got to see of tsuki bc even though we do get to find out more about her in hikari/agnea pt2, it feels... really belated at that point?? ah well i know this will always be a shortcoming octopath has

NO YOU'RE SO RIGHT. i've been thinking of drawing another fox temenos series to match the cat hikari compilation i did a while ago so... ponytail pulling.. (temenos would only do this when feral) also i know i'm replying to this super late but that pavlov thing has been making me feel Insane LIKE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ABOUT HUNTER HIKARI... everyone including hikari just thinks temenos developed a cat ear fetish.....
osvald really needed more hairstyles!!!! i mean it does feel very in-character that he leaves his mane alone (at the same time that would mean hikari would choose to tie a low ponytail by himself for certain outfits. hehe... or maybe throne gave him fashion tips) but man.. this is a job for the fanartists fr. i think hikari looks so cute in a messy bun... ALSO APOTHECARY PRIM SO TRUE

tbh with how little of oboro's plans were actually explained, it's inevitable to overthink every part of hikari's story... it feels sooo fucked up that hikari's story is like. a pretty straightforward "overthrowing the evil warlord" kind of story but the moment oboro gets revealed you start overthinking EVERYTHING... it would be so interesting if that was oboro's plan, not even necessarily in the "recruiting this guy into my cult" kind of way bc it feels like oboro is less indoctrinated into it compared to people like trousseau and more like.. his ideals just aligned with the moonshade order. but i think he would just want the satisfaction(?) of seeing hikari reach the same conclusion as him in regards to life being suffering... i always wondered if oboro ever felt some kind of guilt for dragging ori into the moonshade order with him but i think he also just sees that as an inevitability of living in ku or something... either you're a bloodthirsty killer or a suicidal nihilist ๐Ÿ˜ญ

HONESTLY i felt a little insane when hikari's ch4 ended without him going apeshitt like OKAY it would've made it harder for rai mei to take hikari's side but also if they got that resolved in stormhail i feel like rai mei would be less. concerned about the future of their country or whatever LOL honestly it's interesting to think about "hikari" and oboro because like, despite "hikari" originating from the Shadow it also feels like he's more distinctly hikari-ish than vide-ish? i guess what i'm saying is that even if "hikari" somehow won in a ch5 bad ending scenario, he probably would have still ended up going against oboro... much to think about

HELP the barbie reference killed me (after watching the movie that's esp hilariously ooc) but yeah it's honestly fked up thinking about how much temenos' life was messed with by arcanette... i wonder if arcanette didn't originally have an interest in temenos because he wasn't exposed to any church secrets like jorg and roi were but started to become intrigued by him because of the way he acted since roi's death... like if you compare him to osvald, it's surprising how little emotion we get to see from him so i can see why arcanette would be so obsessed with seeing his mask fall off...(sadist

god i still find temenos and throne's attempts to throw each other off SO funny, i wonder what they would've said to hikari... part of me thinks they both knew that neither of them wanted to deceive hikari so they just started to target each other gkjthkjh "idc if hikari wins i just want YOU to lose" something about how both of temehika's tavern banters (excluding the boys' chat one) end up being about your vulnerabilities or something... another side of yourself... okayy i get it you two just bare everything to each other (insane) actually i was looking at the boys banter in japanese recently-ish and when they're getting sleepy hikari goes "sheep-shan..." while counting instead of "-san" and god that's so stupidly moe....... my mutual talked about him accidentally calling teme "temenosh" at some point and hskgahhj just thought you'd like to know that

honestly something that really gets me is that while temehika are so covered up, they still have exposed hands.. i mean i know partitio and castti are the only others who wear gloves but ough there's something nice about their hands brushing and stuff...
i think even if some of their subjob outfits expose more skin, when it comes to actual intimate situations they're still flustered by it.. i had this little thought of hikari taking temenos to a hot spring and he's like "do let me know if the water is too hot for you" etc etc bc it's temenos' first time but when they get inside it's hikari who gets really flustered looking at temenos shirtless and has to leave the hot spring early hhfkgjh
tbh it's so funny and lowkey unfair how temenos' coerce just seems like something he'd do so naturally but it's so hard to reasonably come up with a situation where hikari would use bribe with someone who isn't a stranger LOL hikari is just at a disadvantage here!! i remember joking around with someone about hikari bribing temenos with food when he's visiting ku bc well. he seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't take care of himself well anyway

omg HAKGAHG ty for sending the suggestion it also blew my mind when i realized it... i also went to binge reread all of it after that ๐Ÿง i'm normal. obviously it doesn't actually work that well as an au bc the whole point of their family is that they look like a nuclear family BUT WELL i can be selectively delusional or whatever. i would want to see hikari get really caught up on what "normal" couples are supposed to do but end up getting really embarrassed about something as small as holding hands...

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