i do know why that anger is justified and nothing you've said is wrong i just do think the divorce was messy and i can't blame homin for being upset and hurt by it in the immediate aftermath. like maybe it's just me, but i've been in messy situations that i've been very emotional about and lashed out about as it happened, and then years later been like yeah i overreacted. that doesn't negate the damage they caused but like. it's been over a decade since homin ACTUALLY spoke up about or against them. the anger is justified when it comes to being upset abt how one side has profited when the other has suffered, don't get me wrong, but i don't think anyone knew how this was gonna play out long term in 2011 and i don't think i can find it in myself as someone who is 22 to blame two people my age who were going though an incredibly public emotional split for being angry abt it at the time. i also think theres a diff btwn ot4s as people who like all of them and don't have a better way to call themsleves cassie boss baby coconuts vs ppl who are delulu abt a reunion but thats an issue for another time. you're lucky i responded to this so nicely considering you're most likely the clown emoji freak from before :)

so it had been going on for months--it sounds like you were on her priv, so you understand the bs she was spewing there. it's easy to see just her tweets and be like yeah this is complete bull. she was in our gc and our dms keeping this shit up for YEARS. like, EVERY screenshot she sent from her phone, you could see the time was set to a jp timezone. the system language was in jp. she sent pics of places in tokyo that never came up on reverse img searches. i never fully believed her story abt her boss and her workplace shit, it was too far fetched. but i did believe she was in jp at least, because it'd be too insane to go to all that effort for YEARS in private chats if it wasn't true that she was at least in jp. nope! roxi is just a fucking freak. i was sus for months and months but the thing that made me actively start hunting down the truth was bcs of the jx con announcements. roxi kept claiming to not know anything abt jj despite almost everyone in the gc they were in for years being a jj stan. and then it turned out they really didnt know ANYTHING abt jaej, like, they were surprised he had a navel piercing, and it was like goddamn u rlly didn't pay any attention to any of us. so i got pissed enough to really hunt them down. and frankly, roxi should feel goddamn lucky we didn't call her out more. i could post her whole legal name, face, and address. but we had known for about a month before we actually took any action bcs it took a while to figure out who we wanted to tell and what we wanted to do about it. and a lot of us also felt dumb for not realizing all the red flags but when its someone you know you don't wanna think they're an absolute deranged pathological liar. but yeah. i'm sorry you also had to be a victim to their web of lies for no fucking reason. and karissa if you're reading this i hope you know we have our fucking eyes on you. xoxo.

yeah sm loves dropping the ball when it comes to their senior artists so it'd be surprising if they weren't dissatisfied yk. i think it's fine if neither of them really want to pursue solo careers to the extent of some of their peers, honestly, but if they want to do it they shouldn't be stopped from it. however tvxq's main source of income has been in japan since like, 2006, so them focusing on promotions there genuinely doesn't surprise me. it's not an awful setup though, you do one dome tour for 3ish months of the year and then get the rest of the time to do whatever (like spend time with your family) bcs ur income has been made from that. with the way the situation is rn it's really hard to tell whether it is dedication or obligation, because it's possible they're content or it's sm pushing them back or it's some combination of both.

oh boy where to even begin. the long and short of is that after knowing roxi for multiple years and having suspicions she was lying about her entire life but having no solid proof, we actually found proof that EVERYTHING she had told us about her was a lie. which is already insane but then the more we looked into it the worse she looked, bcs she had been lying about her job and where she worked, and was then making tweets that were stating her boss donated lots of money to causes such as palestine and venezuela, and also pretended to be affected by natural disasters occuring where she was lying about being. it also got to the point where she was starting to say stuff that she made up under the guise of having authority that could be career ruining for other people if it got out. and she kept this up night and day for over two years. set her phone time to a zone she wasn't in and set her system language to one she didn't speak in order to keep up the bit. and then when we called her out completely deflected and fully refused to be held accountable and made up MORE lies to avoid further confrontation. this is all just the surface of it so. actually fucking insane behavior.

so here's the thing, i think homin are genuinely very dedicated to tvxq in a way where i don't think they'll ever go an extended time w/o doing anything as a group. and i don't think you get to that point without feeling something more than just obligation, yk? to me there's a difference between being stuck and being content, and i wouldn't be surprised if both of them were content with the way things were all things considered. it's also something to think about that it's possible cm and yh don't want the same thing re: tvxq and its direction. idk though, to me it's kinda read like homin tend not to push back against sm's decisions for tvxq, either bcs they trust sm or bcs they don't care to do otherwise. that or they're just way less vocal about it than other senior artists are (key and boa for instance both being very outspoken about issues they've had pushing back against what sm has decided for them). i really don't know though, i just have a hard time thinking about yunho of all people doing anything half-assedly.

i can't say you're wrong, jj definitely deserves to smack him around. the cm swinging @ jj joke is one i've made a lot more in the past than i do now, esp bcs i do have a harder time finding it enjoyable now than i once did. i can't speak for other people, but where its come from on my behalf is like, 21 yr old hurt and betrayed goose boy seeming like he just really needs to get a solid right hook in to feel better. which would both a) not help and b) obvs lead to a whole brawl. at the end of the day if anything like that ever happened though it'd genuinely be cause for me to drop homin so i am very much not advocating for it. also this isnt getting tweeted primarily bcs my previous twitter account got nuked because i answered a curiouscat ask about them throwing hands so i'm not taking chances again.