💀💀 yeppppp. as i've said before, ppl can ship what they want idc and shipping doesn't indicate your stance on stuff etc etc. sometimes ppl just wanna ship themselves with a character, or they don't like X chara, and age gaps are a squick for some people and nobody /has/ to like miggymai!! and that's okay! yadda yadda!!

BUTTT at the same time,,,it's honestly kind of a way to weed out certain ppl by seeing how determined they are to not acknowledge black characters, to the point of giving Miles&Jess's roles to other, whiter, characters -- and going face first into fanon as a way to justify that. <-- LIKE i think thats general the crux of the "issue" for me. it's not making white ocs, or shipping X with Y(1), or even having individual au's where "what if [insert white character] was the focus" -- it's the uncanny feeling of seeing Miles and Jess be...replaced from the narrative on a fandom wide level...and continuing an odd trend of how black(2) characters are regarded in fanbases :ppp

[gets the sudden feeling that this ask is gonna get me anon hate lol]

and like i said!! this doesn't just apply to the whole oc stuff, just a trend i see with white (...usually miggy) stans/shippers in gen!!!! so in a way i'm thankful that so many ppl r turned off by miggymai + bottom miles ships! im not rlly interested in interacting w/ ppl who are...hm. weird in that way about and miles (AND MIGGY(3))!!

also i genuinely think there's a tough conversation to be had in gen, about the way ppl are towards miggy and miles (and jess, and [insert every single non-white char in spverse lol]). i don't think it's going to be "doing XYZ is bad or not bad" or whatever -- half the convos we have in fanbases and try to sum up with yes or no answers is stuff academics spend their lives discussing. but white proshippers r allergic to nuance 💀...another topic for another time.

anyways i got so...soo off track. i'll just end on that i think Princess Weekes on youtube is the closest i've seen to someone putting into words how i feel about convos like this 😭 like ofc i dont agree with /everything she says/ (though i never think that's her goal), but she opens up conversations on fandom/race/gender/proshipping in a way that i've seen very little of!

(1) genuinely feel bad for brown/black/non-yt ppl who like some of those ships im alluding to 'cause god damn ik their suffering rn 💀 and on that note...liking bottom miles is fr sooo peaceful. genuinely one of the first times i got to experience being able to peacefully ship a black character in problematic ships AND get content/fics/art in a way i've never seen black characters get as much before ;-; LIKE...u can tell the difference!! idk how to explain it but i feel so less on edge 'cause ik the majority of the ppl writing these fics aren't white 💀 like reading a non-con fic for miles in bttm!miles fanbase feels very diff than how it usually feels when i see that for black characters in diff fandoms.

(2) i've seen it for brown/non-white charas too tbh!! mention this 'cause im getting flashbacks abt a certain show that i will not name where i didn't even know the main character wasn't white bc nobody ever posted pics of them...and half the fics were MC's personality with the white friend pasted on top💀

(3) but lets be clear...so many people /are/ weird about miggy. WONT get into it bc i feel like talking about it is like stepping into a landmine -- and i don't actually have a concrete answer/opinion that's been developed enough for me to comfortably get into detail. BUT i do kind of hate the conversation keeps getting cut off when anyone tries to have a nuanced conversation about it. [gets the sudden feeling that this ask is gonna get me anon hate x2]