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Do you have any interest in tarot cards? Maybe not on a fortune telling level but like a visual or vibes based sort of interest?
Nah it's not for me... it's in the same position as astrology, where it's amusing in a joke or bit, but I don't hold any reverence or appreciation for it aesthetically. I guess it offers me less than astrology which gives me very amusing couples horoscopes and sometimes, a really kewl drawling of a goat-fish or bull.
Opinion on flare jeans both irl and in art? Love or dislike to draw?
As a tween/early teen I wore them (though they would always get absolutely torn to shreds over time... and when I remember the sensation of the fabric billowing around my ankles, I don't remember liking that, but I don't remember liking wearing anything in that era).... I don't wear jeans period anymore, I hardly wear pants at ALL honestly, I can barely tolerate fabric over my legs like that anymore!!!! Skirts and Dresses and Robes..... all I wear. If I have to wear a pant, I'd prefer joggers or a harem pant.
As for stylizing drawing, I don't really like the 'tapered getting bigger at end of limbs' look generally (with some exceptions for like big-pawed digimans aesthetics). A Hazbin Hotel for instance, is quite unattractive to me, or uhhh a Clone High. uhhh . Motorcity. Those flare-jean dressup pixel dolls I saw growing up ...... generally art when the thinnest point is like the, waist or hips, orrr uh the knees, expanding from there.......Oh yeah, a lot of robots work like this aesthetically, like Jenny XJ9. Even for ferals, it puts me off, typically. Like really thin at the ah, ankles and elbows of a feral, big inflated paws at the end.... No and no and no....
I don't really have anything so against the concept of a flare-leg pant (I'd say I'm aggressively not into a bunch of other things about the early 2000s like spaghetti straps... bellybutton rings... tube tops... toe rings omfg) but ehhghhgg I can't think of a sexy or aesthetically appealing application of them... on any gender jeans in general aren't really my thing. Meanwhile in the 1970s aesthetic, I love the colors, those burnt oranges and browns and golds, and a lot of the tops, but not so much the pants options haha.
did you ever like dino run? dino run 2 has a sandbox alpha out and its very cute
It is very beautiful pixels, I have periodically admired it... I remember when the initial campaign was launched and watching the trailer! I don't necessarily know if I would love to play it or not, rather than "run" format I would like to just explore as different species in that sidescrolling fashion...
that said I would love to get to see the ah chart of all dinosaurs, all pixel runs and animations isolated ... if someone is inside the Patreon and can let me know what is available in development to parooze in there, let me know, maybe some day I would back a dollar or smthn if it meant I could see the isolated pixels of a dozen diff dinos flying, running, etc >< I like to see them all scaled out in pixels side by side!
Hey avvy! I have spent days looking at your size refs you make for your gorgeous work (the tapir prince and the kodkod set comm is extremely wonderful, have looked at that tons of times in awe since you posted it!) I was wondering if you had any tips for keeping all things in line/accuracy/the proportion of it all making sense even in stylization? In special, for creaaaturees, animalss of course! Some are so different in fascinating in ways that I often end up not handling that aspect well or getting puzzled ^^ I'm... very sorry if I'm not phrasing this correctly so excuse me for that, regardless thank you for you and bird sharing your art, it is really all so wonderful and so full of love ♡ I have learned so much just paying attention to it (*^▽^)/
uaaah thank you so much, it's been really really satisfying to do that sort of thing lately TT__TT I'M GLAD IF ITS FUN TO LOOK AT cuz its fun to make!!! Kind of obsessed with size and proportion contrast in creatures!! I'm happy if my work can infect you with dwelling on aminals...
It's an interesting question...! The first step would BE making a simplistic lineup like that, and for me personally, doing it in MS paint in low resolution forces me to be very conscientious of limiting detail, which helps create that unity. Even if the final commission will be in a higher resolution, the lineup can't be... or I might overdetail things or, fret about tiny inaccuracies. Smaller animals tend to feel more like simple shapes or silhouettes to us, I want to maintain that feeling. Mice turn into little cat-toys at a distance... if you tend to jump straight into high-resolution images with weighted lineart, I think it, COULD, maybe, help to turn line weight off and make yourself draw small, to get the 'feeling' of 2 things side by side quickly and without distractions.
I also try to find as many videos as possible of species near one another, OR if I can't find that, near to a human zookeeper or vet or something; it gives my brain a stronger sense of context! Creating bridges helps that way, suchas, I can watch videos of Tamarin fed by keepers, and I can go "OH, they're basically squirrel sized! I know how big a squirrel is next to a cat!!" now I know if I draw the tamarin too big , 'cuz I can go "wait, a squirrel is smaller than that!". Having objects in my vicinity can help me visualize a size IRL, too... like an 11x5 sketchbook; now if an animal is '12in long' I can hold the sketchbook in my hand and try to imagine it near me.
as for stylizing consistency... I almost want to say that's a matter of analyzing what you like and want out of depiction and applying it overall, and deconstructing to yourself what individual choices you like to make in art, becoming self-aware of them and dictating them, so that you apply them evenly... does that make sense? I think inconsistency comes from making compulsive/impulsive or shorthand choices in the moment (this isn't a bad thing in many situations or in entire art goals for oneself!!!!!!! it can be the way one works entirely!!!!), while consistency comes from awareness.
My stylizations tend to be:
-underemphasis on joints, overemphasis on skin and fur coverage
-large eyes, large skulls
-understated noses; no hard lines defining, only color. lean towards slits over holes if nostril is important to impression (suchas in a pig or moose); lean towards no detail at all, overall
-fewer digits-- if 4, draw 3, if 5, draw 4
-the feeling of the animal viewed from a distance, not up close
-adolescent-feeling individuals; small torso/body, prominent limbs (most refs I use are adolescent specimens of any species, not fully-developed mature adults)
hello.... i cant remember if ive asked this before, ive wondered it for some time, so sorry if i have! BUT. what do u think of Phantom of the Opera. i always think Christine and Eric are very you and Bird coded. (i particularly enjoy the 25th anniversary edition hehe) anyway im so glad you guys are home and safe and that things are looking up, it sounds like that was such a scary time!! 💛
Ahhh isn't it funny... I've never really been a 'musicals' person!! Bird is but I don't believe Phantom of the Opera is/has ever been high on his list.... however hilariously he spent many years fixated on a character who (and he had no idea at the time) was (in part) a parody of the Phantom. Bird certainly finds the overall aesthetic of the mask + becaped individual all dramatic and brooding and demanding very relatable, though the play itself falls flat (in particular the ending)... in the end it tends to be things just touched by Phantom, inspired by it, which enter interest... needs some extra spicey... a degree of separation from the source....
now most humorously Bird and I DO sometimes listen to and vibe the sequel's songs!?!?! And I think some aspects of the sequel are more relevant ?! it has a wild indulgence to it, I enjoy that it is like "actually... nevermind them leaving eachother. behind.. also, they fucked SO much back then". It's very Birdcore to run some sort of deranged circus and homewreck and cease being in any way humble. 'Love Never Dies' as a song especially.... so fun (:
hai i was curious, is there a reason why you n bird's art styles are so similar? i feel like this could be read as rude but it comes from genuine curiosity. both of you create beautiful stuff <3
I don't feel it's rude, however I have been asked this many times! but I'm too lazy to find the old answers... the answer to this is simple and twofold
1. we take a lot of inspiration from one another, and have for 7 years. That's a lot of time and influence!
2. we flat-out, and I will say this with conviction, do not have the same art style </3 if you take the time to absorb our work independently, or parooze our spaces on gallery websites, you will find we interpret the same subjects quite differently, even if we value some of the same things in overlap. Believe it or not, many people who commission one of us do so exclusively, for instance, and do not see our work as interchangeable. As flattering as it is for us to be seen as the same, it just isn't true!
Do you ever think of your ships being parents/having kids, or is that kind of dynamic not interesting?
I'm not interested in it, no! Not with human-level sapience/society/caretaking & identity particularly. I really like my ships, and I like them interacting together, and for me, having a child is more like introducing a 3rd person into the relationship, interrupting/interfering with my OTP's dynamic... I don't have any interest in platonic relationships, nor do I have interest in parent/child, typically, even NSFW. My interest in any kind of insemination ends at the harsh reality of 'doing it'.... it all fades to black after that >>
That said, I like animals having litters, and even in some situations like certain pokemon or neopets of a fantastical sapience, so long as the babies are basically just gormless kittens who will run off independently past a certain age. I like litter-making. If Pikachu and Mew, or Hamtaro and Bijou, had babies, I'd enjoy that... I just wouldn't want those babies to become named bespoke individuals they continue to engage with :o (for something like Bijou & Hamtaro, the babies could just get adopted out quickly....)
Do you like the Dark Crystal? (Love your art and analysis, always!)
YESSSS I am a Grottan & Bird is a Dousan :3c
It actually really scared me as a child </3 but then when I was just a little bit older, I was obsessed with it! Ah it's my perfect kind of movie/series... I just adooore the details, the world, the creatures, it's so so decadent and fun and beautiful and captivating...! I think... whatever most people feel about Harry Potter or Star Wars or whatever, I feel about Dark Crystal. I would LOVE to, GO THERE and explore all of it, I love the gelfling clans, I love the podlings, I love the Arathim SOOOO COOOOL!!!!! I like the enchanting things and the sprawling lore is just fun!!!! It's something I genuinely don't think I would be so interested in if it was not puppets, but the scale is So tantalizing, being physical, real sets most of the time!!!
Age of Resistance was like a dream come true for me, I've always longed for more high-budget Dark Crystal, I rewatch it with Bird pretty often!!! All sorts of twists and developments sooo work on me... in particular the Arathim really were like, OH MY GODDDD... I love Deet.... girls like Deet so few n far between these days, I feel media does not favor the Fluttershy Type anymore ....... I feel like I don't even know where to begin with going on about it... I JUST LOVE IT ALL!!! DELIGHTFUL!!! I'm always trying to get more people to give it a shot, it's like UNFATHOMABLE TO ME that anyone WOULD NOT LIKE IT, like, but but BUT PRUPPETS...???? BUT BUT you can see, creature..... DON'T WE ALL WHINE ABOUT WANTING PRACTICAL EFFECTS ??????? this is IT BABY... I don't necessarily think it is the world's most original story, and I'm not a person who cares about war or anything... (I would probably technically enjoy to watch the Age of Innocence in terms of the lore playing out)... BUT WHAT ELSE WILL GIVE YOU SUCH AMAAAAZING VISUALS, nothing evarrrrr!!! There is NOTHING like it, and I think it's, CRAZY it could be made anew in Age of Resistance but with so much faithfulness to the original production.... it feels like something that leapt out of time TT_TT the world is inferior and disappointing to not fund more and more of it... I WOUld watch 100 series of Dark Crystal movies n shows TT_______TT AND THE LORE IS PLENTIFUL... LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Have you ever wanted to do makeup?
my skin is way too sensitive to tolerate just about anything so, no, I don't think about it much @@ unfortunately it's a sensory nightmare for me, mostly.... my skin gets rashy and red from even most shampoos and body washes... I'm very sensitive to scents of any kind, ambiently being present... don't like things layered over my skin, can't even tolerate moisturizers or sunscreen or bug sprays at the best of times ><;;;; she really needs plain water rinsing regularly... I'm like a stinky ferret whose skin and oils will be harmed ...
I've had others do makeup on me for a few occasions in my life, I don't mind the experience and it's novel/funny/fun to be all done up! Though I can't tolerate it all day or regularly, it's happened maybe 4 discreet times in my life... twice in high school, twice as an adult.... I just have to be in a good mood n in a position to wash it all off at a moment's notice!
ooooo, we got 12 inches too over here !! my house is on the same grid as the local hospital so our power came back on super fast, i really hope you guys weren’t freezing too badly >_<
OUUUUHHGH it sucks sooo bad I swear because we are fairly rural and out yonder we are the lowest priority to get our power back on.... last time we were definitely in the last 1% left without power... our grid must not contain enough people to prioritize or anything important.... always staring at the website for updates on 2% battery like "no updates for your area" ok. [stares at everyone else with power] freezes............
You mentioned before that you use an older model of Photoshop, right? What kind of workspace/tools/etc do you use in that? I've wanted to try out Photoshop for a while, but I find the sheer amount settings and options and panels overwhelming, no matter which version I've looked at.
oh gosh i close EVERYTHING except for "layers + options + tools". I also get overwhelmed at what they consider baseline useful HAHA. If I need anything else I'll pull it up from the 'windows' bar and just delete it when I'm done. I prefer the most minimalist workspace possible for sure!
what are your feelings and thoughts on cats… domestic, big, small, all of them!!! i love cats very much and would love to hear you talk about em ^_^
Such wonderful creatures!! I love that feliformes run the gamut of being cat-y and weasel-y, I love their flexibility by and large!!!
My faaavorites tend to be smaller cats, like serval, caracal, lynx, or margay!! Love tiny wildcats like the sandcat or kodkod.... sooo charming!!
I like weirdo feliformes like fossa and jaguarundi and linsang and civet even moar though!!!! THE LONGER THE BODY, THE SHORTER THE LEGS, THA BETTER!!! I like so much in the brooaaad spectrum of kitty relatives x)) mongoose are also in there... ISN'T THAT AMAZING!!! Supermodel clade!!!!
Cheetah are such delightful freaks... what an evolutionary pigeonholing, but, wah, amazing nature can make a greyhound-like thing all on its own. I love their paw shapes the best of any feline, probably-- their middle 2 toes are longer and more prominent than the other two on the side... they almost look like they are evolving towards a hooflike arrangement.... which makes sense, for super speediness! There can be similar toes in sighthounds, afterall! They also have a deep anxiety and sensitive constitution which is so preylike to me, combined with the large, big black eyes, they are so... veering towards becoming antelopes themselves, in a way. What poor things. I like that in captivity they need buddies and a lot of sensitive care... I do relate to cheetahs! Feel like the most unchill cat to me....!
I like when cats go PEAP or SQUEEP like snow leopards or cheetah, or WRAU all ugely like Puma.
I'm not AS interested so much in biiig cats in comparison to smaller ones and relatives, but I do still enjoy them! My favorite 'big cat' is probably the Snow Leopard right now...!!! A Snow Leopard's back legs are longer than their front, to aid in jumping and landing (: and their tails are so so very long--!!!! I also like jaguars, they are in fact QUITE short-legged and long-bodied, what with being tree-capable! If it's a big meaty body, I like these proportions lots...
I would say lions are bottom tier for me, but I still enjoy how blocky their heads are, and I like baby biiiig ears!
Hi avvy! Do you have a favorite 'obscure' animal, or animal that not a lot of people know/talk about?
Hey avvy hope you and bird are doing good today, I hope he's recovering some and getting well! :) I was wondering what did you two think of the new kung fu panda gal Zhen? At least on an aesthetic level if you haven't seen it/have not interest in !!! I... personally think she's veeery kyoot, but I won't be offended if you don't tehehe :D Also the trend of "fixing" cute girlie characters just makes me sad uffhh this happened too with sisu (which I also loveeee) <3 thanks for reading you two are incredibly endearing and talented ♡
ooo I haven't seen it yet, but I'm excited to! I'm up for anything x) I try not to look a gifthorse in the mouth when it comes to cute girlies in anything, I'm just happy there is a cute new girlie!!! I would agree with you that I don't particularly like when it's all about 'fixing' a pretty or cute design, suchas Sisu, who I thought was very charming (AND WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE GOT SUCH A NICE FERAL GIRL....)! I baseline accept a lot of designs won't be 'my flavor' in an exact sense (what? prickly-furred pin-eyed frenetic things?), and there's a baseline of commercialism in designs in these big-company animated features. But I can never understand targetting cute girls like Sisu or Zhen over anything else, like what's so great about Judy Hopps or Nicke Wilde LOL! I'll fix THEM to look less ugly to ME... why though, I could just draw my own rabbit and foxes hahha. I am not sure what the expectations are entirely.... I didn't expect people to hate on Zhen at all! like god LOL what is the wolf from Puss in Boots doing for anyone... that's just as pandering to me.... I don't have to see his ass redesigned... lol! I'm not really mad it's more like... ah people. Who can ever understand...
I'm happy to have a fox... she is so small (: and I'm intrigued that she seems to be playful/silly? Po is more typically the Boke to another person as Tsukkomi, so I think it's creative and fun to experiment with a peppy, energetic, silly girl for him to play off of (: give him a run for his money.... it's nice if Po isn't the only silly one in the room. He can be exasperated or put out at times! I think some part of me will prolly always be Po/Tigress brained BUT!!!! I will give her a fair shot!!!!!
i'm the chia anon from months ago and i've been lingering on chias being eaten or otherwise in pain since. i don't know why!!
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