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woosan tinfoil hat stays ON during sex
Same anon of before (lol I'm ranting a lot sorry😭) but yeah thank you for getting my point :\ I really don't want to sound like I follow ateez for merely shipping purposes because their entire discography is /everything/ to me and I genuinely love each member dearly, but woosan are my favs and this situation going on is making me so sad that I can't even feel enthusiasm for these tour anymore. And it's not only because I miss seeing them together but also for all the other side effects, because the fandom spaces have become so much more unbearable, like I can't even look at past woosan moments without people saying things like "WE USED TO BE SO HAPPY" (which, really, makes me feel nostalgic and sad af😀) or even worse, people assuming that since they don't interact much anymore it means they now hate each other, which of course I know is not true, still, it fucking pisses me off to always read such things.
And I don't even understand what is the plan on the long run... are they going to keep acting like this for the rest of their career? I know we are absolutely no one to demand things from them, I swear I don't mean to sound selfish, but then again, it just pains me a lot. I don't even care if they're romantically involved or not, I just simply wish to have them both interact and be affectionate towards each other as friends like they do with other members and without having to hide their dates because none of the other pairings does it and it's obvious that there is something going on that we don't know about.
Anyway, sorry again for the ranting but I don't know where else to vent and these days have been so tiring and sad. It's a mess overall and the fact that the situation only seems to get worst is :\ idk... I just want my woosan back man...
yeah i completely get you :(( cause im trying to stay positive but the lack of content is getting to me too... especially since i know theyre fine, it just seems so? weird for them to barely interact in most official content, concerts included. everything was fine until barcelona included? so i dont get it. i know i said they're in work mode at concerts, but san seemed fine today at berlin yet we still got no interactions.
"I just simply wish to have them both interact and be affectionate towards each other as friends like they do with other members and without having to hide their dates because none of the other pairings does it and it's obvious that there is something going on that we don't know about." yeah this. i would understand if they were more lowkey because of their popularity, but this is just so strange. there's 3 more concert dates, we'll see how those go.
Well, I believe that you're right in saying that woosan are fine (they obviously are) and that during concerts each member is mainly focused on delivering the best performances and interacting with the public. Personally I've been at three stops, two for which I had vip tickets so I had the privilege of noticing this thing in first person and yes, they're professionals and during concerts they behave like professionals. Plus, it is also true that woosan have stopped engaging much in fanservice for years now (of course sometimes it still happens, it's normal, but generally speaking they don't.) So yeah, in my opinion the "divorce" allegations and panic spreading amongst the raintinys is dumb af and, mostly dangerous since solo stans will thrive on it to further allow hate on either of them, as well as many other atinys will use it as an excuse to validate their personal dislike for shippers by assuming that "woosan don't interact anymore because they're sick of shippers." So some raintinys should just calm down because on the long run it will only bring more troubles.
That being said... I think this frustration on having woosan as biases/fav pairing and subsequently having to bear this blatant form of censorship that is going on is very very very frustrating. I'm not entirely blaming kq since we know nothing of their reasons. Perhaps woosan themselves chose to tone down their interactions on public spaces (which I believe may be the case. I mean, I believe it was something they decided along with the agency, so I am not one of those people who is trying to paint kq as the bad guys) but besides all the logical reasons, I have to admit it is simply just frustrating.
It's not even much for the concerts because we still got some moments, though compared to last eu tour we had crumbs on this one lol. For me, it is more about them always having to tone down everything they do while being super affectionate without limits with every other member. Idk it just... hurts? A lot... I mean, even matz really don't interact much during concerts yet they did a live together and talked freely about their trip + we have a whole hour of footages of that, and it just kills me inside that I cannot even begin to hope to get something like this about woosan because, realistically speaking, we will never get it, and I can't even merely HOPE about it because for how things are now, it sounds so unrealistic. And it's getting even worse? Like, we can't even get woosanhwa lives anymore. Not even if the three of them have a date we can know about it, let alone get photos of them. Or like another anon said, yunsang did not interact during concerts but they are free to post their dates on ig, yungi are all over the stages hugging and doing the cutest things together, etc etc. This literally applies to every pairing except woosan.
I don't even wish to see them doing crazy things like they did back in 2020 because they grew up and have to be more conscious about their actions now, but come on, we can't deny that something has changed for the worse and if a lot of people is noticing it, it means we can't completely blame woosaners for being overdramatic. I don't even want to sound so negative but damn it makes me so fucking sad to never get anything about my fav duo if not crumbs and stolen glances. Woosan are the two who introduced me to ateez and they're so dear to my heart, and while I know they're fine and love each other, it really pains me to have to go through this sort of censorship.
yeah i agree with everything that you said. again, nothing will make me doubt woosan or their bond, but it does kind of hurt not seeing them interact as before. for a government ship, getting crumbs and furtive glances for the most part is :/ i wish we could at least go back to bouncy era? i think that was the last era woosan was pushed. or at least when we got consistent interactions. but idk. im trying to cope by writing fic, but even that is a bit hard when there's no new content, or when there's not much interest in my current project. ugh, i dont know, im trying to remain positive and i wish maybe we'll get a bunch of moments with the comeback, but... i do feel a bit hopeless. cause in terms of woosan interactions, it's just been getting worse and worse. and i totally get that they dont need to interact just because they have to/because we want to! but just like you said, seeing the most affectionate members be affectionate in public with all the other members except each other is... yeah :( i also doubt we will ever get a woosan only vlog like matz got. idk, now i might sound like a doomer as well. the lack of content is kinda bringing me down too.
I too think people need stop basing concert interactions/fanservice to how close the members are. They are there to work and give atiny a good time. For example my bias wreckers are yunsang if l based how close those 2 were on how they interacted at concerts girl I would think they were strangers haha. But as you can see they've basically gone together on dates at almost every stop and are roommates of course they know eachother. The girl who saw wsn at Barcelona just posted that the photos Sn posted today are from the day she saw him at the Barcelona shop. We would have never known that wcc was there too because they don't tell us. I think many old and new Raintinys need to come to terms that we will not get the 2020 wsn era anymore. All we can do is trust them and wait for them to tell us when they are ready what they did on those days. 😊
now that u mention it, i dont think i saw yunsang interact a single time at cologne (i might be wrong tho). but as u said, that does not mean they dont spend time together, considering they have been going out almost all the time during the europe tour. i just want people to stop overthinking and doomposting. acting as if woosan havent been acting secretive for more than 2 years at this point... just need woosaners to have some faith in them. and if they dont, well, there's plenty of other ships that go hard on fanservice.
i do hope that one day we'll find out at least some crumbs of what happened in switzerland 😔
Do you think San wrote Snowflake about him and Woo? Like he said he wanted to write a song for him or is it just his sentimental and romantic San speaking? ☺️
i don't think so, the lyrics remind me of a break up and are overall quite depressing. i do think san wants to write a song together with wy or for him, maybe he has done it already but we just dont know, i could see him do that for maybe their anniversary. i don't think snowflake is for wy, tho.
birthday anon reminded me about "wooyoung! happy birthday! you're like the sun! you're someone i can't live without!" 🫠 🫠 🫠
Gurl if anything that wooyoung video proves he is NOT packed, just proves that he doesn't have a micro dick😭 He's prob just korean average (so not big) sorry to break it to y'all (it's ok we love him for it)
Someone was searching for KQ principals here but I can’t find it. I found them on a photo of their lobby:
KQ puts people first KQ respects positive aspect of the employees, freedom and dignity KQ members keep 3 principles of attitude (genuineness, emphatic understanding, unconditional positive regard)I hope that helps
oh yeah, this is what i mentioned in a previous ask of kq having some messages at the entrance of their building. it's pretty clear what they stand for and if they really mean this, then it makes sense why the members dont have any ill will toward the company (that we know of). not to defend a company because i will never do that but at the very least kq seems Okay. at least when comparing them to big 4...
How has ateez not eaten up wy yet?? Have they seen him??? Sn what are you doing, look at ur husband he's edible as fuck??? EAT HIM
do u ever get a desire to deactivate for a bit? my tl has always been pretty chill and nice, but lately there's so much negativity it's insane. i guess people are stressed (who wouldn't be with current world situation), but it's bleeding so much into fandom spaces, it's hard to enjoy them some days. 😭
yeah honestly but it has to be really bad for me to actually deactivate. i usually just avoid going on twitter for the rest of the day if i really really get annoyed. the vibes for the past week have been really bad, pair that with the bad experience i had at cologne + some other not so pleasant stuff that i went through this week, i really got put off by some of the things i saw going around. woosaners overthinking, jumping to conclusions, then you have antis and puritans saying we're weird and assuming shit >_< awful week all around
What annoys me is that sfw atinys are comparing woosan to larry and saying they've grown apart bc of shippers like them when thats just nowhere near the case 💀💀💀💀 If ateez hated shippers they wouldnt be doing insane shipping fanservice all the time.
I just remembered how Sn posted at 11:26 for Wy's birthday and teared up. He really loves being sentimental. :(
Hi dear, do you have any updates on remembrance!?
I will say how I see it in general (I can be wrong ,I can accept being wrong) in the many phases of woosan I have gone through. Woosan are fine with each other ,always were and always will. Do they fight with each other some times ? Yes ,ofc ,I fight with my family some times like even for why did we bought chocolate with raisins and like in 5-10 minutes we are totally fine. It is healthy to disagree and have differences with other people especially when you spent too much time together. On that point it also shows how close woosan is that they chose to spent more time together in private while they have so many schedules together (like if someone wants to be alone or do something alone after being all day with people is kind of normal ,so the fact they choose to spent it together makes it more meaningful). I am one of those people that didn't expect to get the Switzerland log ,I believe it happened, if you ask me I can say why I believe it happened but I didn't think we would get ( though since wy has mentioned once that he might film it and osos exists i thought we might get something but I wasn't so invested ). I also saw that they went together in Barcelona and I am happy they were together but I am also happy that no one filmed it or took photos because I am tired of people not respecting their wishes. Now on the company: Do I blame Kq ? Yes but not only for woosan. The company is a company and many times makes decisions that I can't agree ( too many fancalls ,not doing something about stalkers fans, like that sn serial fancaller was apparently on the Paris fansign too ,like can't they put some restrictions?) & I would really like if they could sue stalkers or people that start misinformation that could hurt ateez especially when it is serious (like they tried to paint them as n@zi ,pedoph!les etc) so it feels like all the negative feelings just add up and put more reasons to hate their decisions. Like I find it weird completely cutting woosan just looking at each other on logbooks and contents. It's easy to see the akward cuts. I completely disagree with people that want to see them interact all the time& if they aren't all over each other we get divorce allegations. Like they didn't interact that much on valentine's day ? Yes I expected it ,I wanted to say something when I saw everyone hyping it up that is not going to happen but I didn't want to get jumped for jinxed it. But they still interacted if you look close enough, they looked at each other fondly all the time. And at the end of the day it is just a day? Like we have so many moments from thw concerts ? I kind of fear the state people will go once concerts are over because then we will only get content from Kq ,and based on the logbooks we are going to starve . And the only thing that irks me about not putting wsn in content at all is not that I think they are not okay, it is that people start making theories or why they are not close and that start to hate towards either Wooyoung or san. Especially Wooyoung gets so many hate every day . Like sometimes as a rain I was hoping that they will not ask sn any wy related question because it will lead to hate to wy. Because people really take the not interacting as they fought and blame not their favorite. Like Kq released that dvd with cut logbook scenes which was from guerrilla to crazy form era and it had many woosan moments in it and it made me bitter towards them because I remember all the hate I saw everyday towards either of them because people genuinely thought that after bouncy they weren't that close & blamed shippers for it ,while Kq could just not cut every interaction out&create the ground for hate ( that is the only reason I blame Kq for cutting wsn because I am tired of people hating on wy and Sn when they just could keep some innocent playful scenes like looking at each other fondly ,not even doing something that seemed like oh they are couple,just looking or talking to each other )
i just need people to stop jumping the gun during times when there is less content. if people are into woosan for the fanservice and steamy interactions, im sorry but they need to find another ship. so much overanalyzing these days and panicking over nothing... really makes my blood boil. because there's a clear difference between people who have gone to concerts and are analyzing their interactions after the show and people who haven't been to a single concert and judging from footage they see from others. when you're there, it becomes painfully obvious that the boys are in work mode. putting on a good performance and interacting with the crowd are their main priorities, everything comes second. im tired of people saying "oh they dont interact at concerts, something must be going on" but... they had moments, just subtle. and san felt off at cologne, he didnt do fanservice with ANYONE and we're talking about san here. he's probably exhausted, he seems fine at berlin soundcheck so far. so i really need people to unclench and stop reading too much into concert interactions because honestly they barely happen. aside from the subtle woosan moments and the hongsan interaction, there was next to no fanservice at cologne except for 2? 3? yunwoo moments. the concert lasts for two hours and a half, btw. oh, there was also the youth moment between yungi. but... there really isnt much fanservice going on at EVERY concert and i really need people to stop equating the lack of interactions (even tho woosan still had some moments at cologne btw, u just needed to pay attention to them, i didnt even post all of them) with woosan... fighting????? not liking each other anymore? breaking up? my god, it's as if all previous concert interactions stopped existing all of a sudden.
I wanna spread some positive vibes on wsn. Or at least make you feel better bc the doomposting annoyed me too so how do you think wsn have celebrated Valentine’s Day over the years? Besides having sex obviously, sn is such a romantic but I’m curious on what wy decides to do for him.
"besides having sex obviously" made me giggle sdkjfhsjkfdh cause i bet these two go at it till the room stinks... honestly i dont think they do too much cause its not like they can go out without it looking sus in case people see them, unless they go somewhere incredibly private. i think they just spend quality time together, maybe watch movies/dramas together, exchange gifts and stuff. i can also imagine woo cooking something fancy if he has the time, maybe something that san particularly likes. oof this is making me emotional (in a good way) >.<'
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