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hi I have a gift for u
https://jeongcoups17.tumblr.com/post/122637215121
seriously though, thanks for holding that space, it was awesome and it gave me an excuse to dig through tumblr for ancient jc stuff
Ok thank you i did need to hear that whew!! Its the public spectacle of it all that kinda throws me and the way chronic namesearcher scoups HAS to know what people think of them and still operates like he does. I can now accept the platonic possibilities into my heart ❤️
(But i hope they tried bumping uglies AT LEAST once like come on)
Yeah! Happy to provide that, and also please! Go on nice dates with your friends. Don't waste all the fun on romantic partners. They can taint a place/memory by being horrible. And re: the public spectacle THAT IS NOT NOTHING. My friend and I are not famous and everyone who would might wonder about us because of a romantic looking selfie could all dm us or someone we both know and be like, "ARE THEY DATING???" and get an answer. And if we give each other a hug while out and about 5,000 people minimum don't scream. It's not totally the same.
The omakase date fr broke my brain. Like I tried so hard to create a lighthearted just bros way to explain it to myself but i couldnt find one! Even if i ignored the past 10 YEARS of context, I would have had to ignore the three months of “jc divorce” and “hyungwon love triangle” aspect. (Scoups was online being subliminally petty which ofc could mean nothing). But the context leading up to the date itself of flirting on insta and seungcheol crashing joshuas live to be all excited about it was too much. 😵💫😵💫😵💫 and theyve been moving like theyre in love ever since. I just feel like if i saw anybody else in any other context move like this i would assume theyre dating! I want to hear the other side of it so bad b/c i feel like i need a reality check sometimes
L O L, okay, first of all! This is all valid, because I GET it. I really, really do. You can go and find my tweets about it and I'll sound thoroughly unhinged about it.
But actually it's quite easy for me to create a lighthearted explanation for a fancy dinner date with a BFF, because it's something my best friend and I do, and have done. I will say it's not something I have tended to do with friends that I don't have a particularly strong connection with, but the friend I'm talking about I've known for 25 years, we've lived together, traveled together, been phenomenally drunk and then hungover together, attended funerals together, we have worked together at three different companies.
Amusingly, there was definitely a time in which I think people assumed we would start dating as we are both bisexual, but that just wasn't the nature of our relationship. We are both happily married to other people, and I think of her as a sister I'm quite lucky to have found. As we got older, lived apart, had different jobs, etc, we would plan a fancy dinner together, coincidentally often at the end of the year! We'd spend big money! There'd be candlelight! We'd wear fancy dresses! The whole nine yards!
In western society this is definitely I think something more common among female friendships, and I'll admit my blind spot to how wealthy best friends in SK spend their money but Jeonghan and Cheol have known each other for 10 years, have been through incredibly difficult and strained times together, and rely on each other a lot. So yeah. They in my mind it's like, "yep. Fancy date night with your best friend and not a significant other because sometimes you need a Friend Date Night." And Jeonghan is beautiful so if he takes a cunty selfie with an exposed clavicle it looks like he's trying to seduce Cheol and the whole world. And they share the pic because they are working idols and they're actively in the yaoi mines.
At the SAME time, my best friend and I did tend to put less effort into seeing each other in such fancy digs when we saw each other regularly (when living together or working together). So the first omakase date does kind of stick out a bit more (while the November fancy date is more like 'oh yeah of course').
(At the SAME SAME time we didn't have to deal with stalkers.)
(And finally at the SAME SAME SAME time, they're beautiful and I think they should be in love.)
https://retrospring.net/@FickleCandice/a/113676452920786046
I agree with anon here. I read a comment from someone years ago who taught in korea, they mentioned that it always annoyed them that ifans see everything (male) idols do through yaoi lenses because there it's very normal for young boys to be touchy with each other, even to the point that sitting on each other's laps is seen as normal behaviour.
hey! Yeah, I definitely know NOW but did have to some research to understand that there's a really different cultural significance with same sex affection, and frankly, taken completely on its own without context I really applaud and appreciate it. I'm someone who struggles a bit with physical affection with friends, but I'm trying to increase my comfort with it. Life is too short not to have a cuddle friends you deeply love and trust. Watching svt adore each other, support each other, and take energy from each other is really so sweet and healing. I'm delighted they don't have to feels self conscious about it.
I went into this a bit in my space, but in general I don't find skinship to be that noteworthy. I enjoy looking at it for multiple reasons: shippy reasons, these are two attractive people being attractive together reasons, god I wish that were me reasons, I really love seeing men express affection freely reasons. But like with clothes sharing, it's a universal, unremarkable aspect of idol life. I'm just glad Mingyu can hold hands with someone as often as he wants because it seems like it's genuinely a constant desire.
Omg i wasn't asking in an accusing way im sorry!!! I was just genuinely curious after the space and wanted to know the tea about what the berlin date was haha, you are cool 🤍
oh! Ahaha, no no no, I didn't think you were accusing me of anything, it just reminded me that I'm going off on tangents a bit manically right now without actually saying the whole of what I'm thinking. Also, even if you had been like, "what are you even going on about?" I wouldn't have been offended.
why is the berlin date significant and why could it be a turningpoint/hard launch?
LOL! It's not significant, I mean not REALLY. YJH was pretty explicit about the fact that he was filming content to release during his enlistment and what the "fans who just happened to be at the same restaurant" said is that they were filming. Jeonghan and Cheol are frequent dinner partners, so it's not all that surprising or remarkable that they went to dinner in Berlin and filmed content.
On the OTHER, far more insane hand, Berlin was Jeonghan's last live performance before going on enlistment, and they have managed to still be A Lot lately, even when they don't have to because if Jeonghan wanted to he could just take two years to not work in the yaoi mines, so like, IDK, if they were going to hard launch don't you feel like filming a romantic dinner, right before enlistment, where they casually confess they love each other and then BAM. Suddenly the relationship is true, but not only that it's been true for two years so what are you gonna do about it. You know? No?
has anyone seen this new superman stuff? bec maybe it’s just the one gif and nothing else but here it looks like he could be mingyu. for your consideration. <3
https://x.com/corenswetmedia/status/1869746431516725712?s=46
https://x.com/ShhhCandice/status/1869524640974118938?t=vN7FX3twBaS11FsOS2BNqQ&s=19 please tell us moreeeee
L O L I was literally screen caps of either comments made on tiktok or youtube and it was just someone describing how they used to watch svt streams pre-debut and how people don't know the half of what they got up to. To provide an example, they describe Seungkwan doing whatever he wanted to Vernon (including just slapping his butt repeatedly) and how Vernon was at first not even that interested in avoiding him, but finally Seungkwan goaded Vernon into a wrestle session that turned into a cuddle pile. To me it very much matches what I actually have seen of Seungkwan in the melona room which is that at that young age he already had the "there's a camera, time to do whatEVER I want" mentality, and that led to him being pretty unselfconscious about "pretending" to want to kiss/cuddle/flirt/initiate skinship.
for the jh bracelet lore I don't know if I can link but if you google fanaccount 150627 jeonghan you can find the original tumblr post about it being a gift from his parents
Somehow this is like. The worst thing I could have found out. So the bracelet. That they might have been both wearing. Is either a dupe of a very meaningful bracelet for Jeonghan or is the same bracelet Jeonghan was wearing in 2015, now seen on Cheol's wrist in 2018. Is this what we're all learning?
diff anon but were you here like a day ago when sc was taking a flight with ww and vn and he clung to his manager. the thing is thats the big buff older manager they have had for yearsss and coups was very close to him so kcouprangs were SET OFF they were all tweeting like what do older men have that we dont
I joined late but one thing I often turn around in my brain is what types of walls Seungcheol kept up in the melona room (all the kissing and fighting aside) to avoid getting attached to someone and them leaving
Everything I know about the reality of the melona room for SC is so heart clenching. Like that he was going to be a maknae in another group, that he was not originally intended to be the leader, that he endured a lot of comings and goings and that it lasted SO long that surely he HAD to feel like actually debuting was a truly hopeless dream. I get so upset about it that I immediately default to "L O L HE WAS JUST A HOLY GAY TERROR" because otherwise I'll cry and try to fight PL3DI$.
the harley quinn almost kiss! there's a longer clip of that where sk introduces the bit and he says fans were going crazy about the way sc played the paper passing game on weekly idol and grabbed members by the necks so sk suggests sc should reenact it and ofc jh got volunteered as tribute
I very much remember that SK called out SC about his neck-grabbing habit and was teasing him about it. So the aggressive attempts to hold JH's neck and play with his hair like "made sense" for the gag, but I love that all it took was one lick lip and SC was sunk, panicking running away. Losers! But it's scarier to think that if they tried it now it would feel very different and the only ones panicking would probably be staff who would be like "CUT THE CAMERAS."
Cheol is also very different when and how he interacts with older men. I don’t even think they have the words to put together trauma bond. Same socio anon
I think SC would still be very touchy because of South Korean culture. Men are allowed to be touchy towards each other (for a very homophobic society). Like even if they weren’t famous, the chances of them being very similar to who they are now is very high. A sociologist here who has been with them since predebut and also knows a bit about Korean society.
Also the type of family he grew up in already set him up to be very affectionate.
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