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this is going to sound crazy but youre the only person i know who actually cares about Women and i was wondering if you have any advice for breaking down internalized misogyny and things like books or documents to read or watch or listen to or anything. I lowkey cant live with myself seeing women the way i do #bless
This is such a good question even though this platform has this anonymous option I do think it's really brave and commendable that u'd ask!!!
tbh even though I am "a person who reads theory" I think whatever I recommend isn't going to mean anything if you can't apply it to your own life. I also would tell yourself that this isn't something you're going to be instantly good at, it's like a muscle. we exist in a misogynistic society so accepting we're going to have to spend the rest of our lives deprogramming our mental colonization is the first step to overcoming it. I would be lying if I didn't say I still have moments where a woman around my age will hurt me due to very openly misogynistic people, structures, and trauma affecting them and then my brain will ignore the context and catch my brain saying the phrase "man I hate women" T_T
I think it's not only personal work & deconstruction but also interpersonal connections that can give u a sense of clarity. a chunk of my IRL friends/comrades are abolitionists who take notes from notable black marxist-feminists and I have become friends with so many more trans women this year (who also share similar schools of thought). I hang out and organize in mixed-age spaces that also allow me a bit of intergenerational scope, a handful of my friends are moms in their 40s/50s.
I would first start with doing "retracing" of your steps, thoughts, compulsions, etc. knowing that gender was enforced from its inception as a means of arbitrary labor division and in itself a manifestation of classism, subjugation. Also with the knowledge that your thoughts are a direct result of the system you live in! interrogate where these thoughts come from, and how they are STRUCTURALLY and INSTITUTIONALLY caused. I would also suggest making space in your hobbies, social activities, etc to include dedicated time where men aren't present. I think this also should include setting aside time to recall YOUR experiences with misogyny, even if it's a bit uncomfortable sometimes....
also de-center your mom lol otherwise you will never be free
reading list
All About Love - Bell Hooks
The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love - Bell Hooks
Women, Race, and Class - Angela Davis
The Beauty Myth - Naomi Wolf
Women, Development, and Labor of Reproduction - Mariarosa Dalla Costa et. al
fave sapphic couples outside the persona series? 👀
off the top of my head, magivel, juriori, utenthy, velma/marcie, lyse/yshtola, fanille, actually any combo of the ff13 girl party members, aerti, jolymes... there are more and I've actually drawn all of these couples LOL! usually every year there's some f/f couple that lives in my brain at all times and they just rotate this lease
Do you listen to Malice Mizer
I actually do like malice mizer just very casually . I have Le Ciel on my ytmp3 downloads heheh
hiii!! how are you doing? how was your day at work? (also i love your art so much, so cool!!)
aw thank you!! ur so sweet ! I was at work as of the day I'm writing this and it was OK, I think getting yelled at by patients for things out of my control has helped me be a more "temperamental" person. my neighbor the other day invited me over for some tea and she was talking about very very intense things about her childhood and studied my reaction / expressions and was like "how are you so nonjudgmental about this" and in my head AND out loud I say that part of being a human is just having a tapestry of weird, zany, awful experiences so I can't really judge. I like knowing that this is something I can tap into at work and in personal life with intentionality
I am very dyspraxic with bad hand motor skills so I cannot draw well. Your art style is my favorite thing ever. In my head I draw similarly because your style is so inspiring!! You are freaking awesome
this is so sweet. it makes me so happy like genuinely!!!
i remember you once mentioning tatsujun and ulamaya paralleled each other but i was wondering how they did outside of both being protags childhood friends?
They’re gay. Ok jk there’s the flower assn with Ulala’s rose and Jun’s various flowers, they both were the Joker, and they both targeted the protag by a transfixed gaze of the “images” they had of each other in childhood. Maya is taller than Ulala and Tatsuya is taller than Jun. there’s a line Baofu has at the casino remarking how similar Maya and Ulala are even if they appear as opposites. That’s literally Der Doppelgänger’s motif about Jun and Tatsuya 😭😭😭😭 love ittttttt
https://www.instagram.com/stories/mtv/3449749806338326083?igsh=MWlqbzR5OW56NjByZg== omg hi i'm really sorry to bother but could you please vote for txt here? 🥹🥹please I'd be so glad!! 🩷
Votedddddd idk them but I’ll do it for you
boss! what are your favorite kinds of food to make!
HELLO LITTLE CHEF 🧑🍳 I like tahdig, fessenjan, tteokbokki, love making cheesecakes, pastries in general… yeah…
do you think jun would age beautifully and become more like his mother/ stay youthful for a long time or would he become more like his father?
He would age a bit more faster due to stress I think and starts greying at 26. But he still maintains an elegance that’s reminiscent of his mama….the guidebook mentions him having to eat astronaut food since childhood bc of junko’s neglect (not sure if this carries to the EP timeline) so i dont think he’s having a consistent diet to be on the level of his mom’s planned meals by her management team due to her celeb status .
Though I think he accepts he’ll mostly look like his mom that’s why it hits like a truck when he turns 40 and looks in the mirror and is reminded of Akinari and is like shit… wait….
i've admired your art for a couple years now and it makes me happy to see you active again especially cus i love p2 and maya especially🥹 i love being in spaces that discuss female characters as well since it's not as common and you provide one!!
Ur so fucking epic thank you I’m happy to be back with art even though I can’t make it a priority due to #life I LOVE WOMEN ALWAYS i feel like if you’ve known me from when I was 14 arguing about fire emblem girl characters then you know it’s like chronic for me
what’s your fave persona design from p2? mine is gabriel
RHADAMANTHUS IS MY FAVORITE !!!!! I love Gabriel though
i hope this isn't like off putting/odd for me to say, im just super happy to see you on twitter again as i followed you quite a few years ago and adored ur art and seeing how much you've grown is so lovely tbh!!! like ur art exudes a kind of maturity and tenderness that i don't see often <3
You’re not offputting at all ! This is sweet I appreciate you. I just think my life at the moment cannot accommodate that following that I have from main but I might return eventually. So nice to see you here!! So glad my art has weight in this sense 🩷
Not previous anon but benevolent misogyny isn't real. All misogyny is harmful regardless of intent, and saying that one type of misogyny is benevolent ignores that it's still the status quo. Also Katsuya is a fairly big misogynist anyway. All his misogyny comes from a place of patriarchal power and upholding societal structures like marriage (Ulala, Maya) and law enforcement (the dress slit remark). None of that is benevolent. It's different to Baofu's because it's covert and insidious, but no less harmful.
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Also no beef with you, I'm clarifying because some people on this site see the word benevolent and immediately start tweeting about how Katsuya's sexism is fine actually because he loves women or something blame shifting like that. Benevolence in sexism relates to appearances and not the intent.
Putting my Twitter threadings here for posterity
Yesss thank you anon for chiming in when I say “benevolent” misogyny I do mean appearances & optics, it’s still destructive.
Like how I’ve been told the most racist shit ever in the workplace but it had “corporatespeak etiquette” which isn’t actually “etiquette” just optics
It’s The Point of his character that he tries to shirk the gravity of being part of the police force - and say “I’m not like those guys” while carrying a badge & partaking in this system. And even being hurt himself by the system! It’s really enriching when you understand these contradictions in both the personal and systemic
Oh yeah there’s this one line he has in P2EP where at Rosa Candida he says something like “the sexiness of the clothing here could increase the crime rate” which is not even “benevolent” misogyny it’s just uncloaked lol. Again fixation on the system that takes the blame from systemic to “personal responsibility” even though we live in a society. And he’s not the only one too like this is a recurrent theme in the p2 characters regardless of their gender …. Maya, Baofu, Ulala, etc all have uncloaked Misogyny Moments
May I ask what name should we call/refer to you when talking to you? I'm a non-oomf so I feel like I have no rights to ask you directly yet idk what to call you if I ever have the courage to talk to you, but I feel like referring to you by your username in full is more awkward and weird... Thanksies ówó
Says in my bio “DG” is fine like dollar general hahaha thanks for asking . Adrian Seidelman is a character from cybersix LOL
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