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Anonymous Degenerate · 2mo

Can you explain what's going on with the whole 'High School being tagged as NSFL' thing? I noticed you put a pretty solid chunk of your bots on hold, has this put a damper on your interest to continue making stuff? The whole thing seems kinda silly considering probably as much as half of all the bots on the site are in a High School setting, and High School doesn't necessarily mean underage.

Oof size: large. The short answer - it was a huge bummer at first, but I remain undeterred from botmaking in general. It sucks to see cards you put a lot of love into suddenly have their audience reduced because... being in a high school may lead your model to generate underage characters (yes, this is the rationale that has been explained to me), something that has happened to me precisely zero times, either in testing or as a general user. NSFL tags in general baffle me - 'rape' is fine but 'alcoholism' is not, so it's not intuitive at all. How I'm supposed to make informed choices about the content I create is beyond me.

Having said all that, NSFL as a concept is an understandable concession to get on iOS, and I understand why the mod team is jumpy about it given the fact that they're volunteer, by definition underpaid, have to look at some truly horrible shit, and then get bitched at for doing their best to take care of the community. I don't really blame them for the ambiguity around NSFL tags, externally or internally (I've had different answers to what "High School" should apply to, for example). It's not their fault that there's no standardization or strict definitions, or that they need to defend frankly weird decisions by the site owners (who I also can't be terribly mad at, they both have full-time jobs apart from taking care of chub, and I understand that means being reactive sometimes instead of proactive).

In the end, I want to see a system that is transparent, well-defined, and consistently applied, to create a level playing field. I fully admit that my motivation for that is being able to effectively compete at number go up, which absolutely is one of my motivations for making cards (a natural result of the site owners intentionally gamifying the site). But I don't wanna wallhack, like some people seem to think.

One other note: artificial opacity around NSFL tags only weakens the community. It's like DRM - it doesn't effectively deter the exploiters, but it does hurt those who wish to follow the rules.

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