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anon-chan · 10d
Now I wonder what would beabato think about Higurashi, with their... intense history with Lambdabern mmm
anon-chan · 10d
To be honest, my biggest problem with my whodunnit theory in Higurashi (at least, for the "Final Mystery" proposed in Himatsubushi) is that it seems pretty obvious, especially after Tatarigoroshi -- that's why I'm not certaintly sure. But that person is definitely too sus, and trying to explain in a human way how some stuff could happen with her only makes them even more suspicious in the great scheme of things. Even if I don't know WHY would they make that.
It seems like Ooishi and Akasaka believe there was one single person behind everything that had been happening in Hinamizawa during the last years, but Rika seemed to think the Watanagashi murders and her own murder in the last year were two different crimes, with the latter being even against the wishes of the first perpetrator(s). Mmm...
Would you like to read my theories? 👉👈 You don't have to say anything... I don't have anyone else to talk about them!
anon-chan · 14d
Hiiii! I finished Himatsubushi! So I finished the Question Arcs!!! It was a long road...
I'm happy nothing felt as scary as Onikakushi. Though... Tatarigoroshi was very triggering...
Himatsubushi probably didn't feel as mysterious for me because of Umineko
Since I knew from what Lambda said in EP6 that Bern was originally a piece in a gameboard made by Featherine, and that she committed a logic error and left Bern alone to solve it. Rika definitely behaved very close to Bern when she "changed"! I think that the explanation for she knowing everything is that her meta self has gone through uncountable games by now, trying to solve the logic error... though I wonder what's exactly the logic error in Higurashi. (Does this mean I can't solve it?)
As for the mystery, I think I have a human explanation for mostly everything! And I think the Final Mystery, the Big Culprit who kills Rika although she shouldn't die (though idk if she died in EP1) and that could be responsible of the Great Hinamizawa Disaster as well (does it happen as well in EP1 and 2?)... I think I know the whodunnit! But i really don't know what could be the Whydunnit...
You made it through...! Congratulations!
As for Rika and a 'logic error', well... :3
You'll see how your explanation turns out... Higurashi is less of a 'proper' mystery but I think some people did guess correctly? I think the whodunnit is much easier than some aspects of it like how/why.
anon-chan · 20d
I think it's a fairly accurate assessment, but for me I think Beatrice has both that soft, vulnerable side as well as that more dominant side. I think they're both aspects of her character and her relationship with Battler. Though the extent to which she goes in EP2 is in part a front, there's also truth to it.
anon-chan · 30d
Hi! I'm the anon reading Higurashi! I know it has been a time, but I wanted to tell you I finished Tatarigoroshi!
This chapter didn't scare me as much as Onikakushi, or Watanagashi's last scene... but hahaha...
What happened with Satoko...
It was very difficult to read. And triggering.
I have many theories and possible answers for the mysteries! Though there's still many things I don't know
There's just one question arc left!
anon-chan · 2mo
A thing I don't understand is how Sayo and Beato knew about the baby swapping with Battler. Like, why did they investigated it to begin with?
There's a couple options, since I don't believe this is covered in the story itself.
Option 1, which is the simplest, is that Sayo didn't know in Prime, but Beatrice knows. There are two sub-options for this: one is that she knows because she is a witch (less likely, as she doesn't know that Sakutarou isn't handmade) and the other is that she knows because she is written by someone who does know - Tohya.
The idea that Beatrice knows because she was written by Tohya in 4 is one I prefer, primarily because it also ties into how I view the scene as Tohya grappling with his identity (Battler or Tohya) as well as his past, and how finding out that his mother was Kyrie affected his identity.
Option 2 is that Sayo had Genji investigate the Ushiromiya family for scandals/secrets, and he found out for them.
Option 3 is that Kinzo was somehow aware of the swap, and because of this, Sayo became aware of it (maybe he shared this info with Genji and he told Sayo).
anon-chan · 3mo
I've always thought that Bernkastel was lying when she stated that Lion only existed in one fragment and their death by Kyrie was unavoidable. Neither Bern nor Lambda said it with the red truth, so I think there could be many other fragments with Lion where they lived and Bern just chose one where Kyrie killed them to mindtorture Clair and Lion.
For me I generally take those words to be true, but since she didn't use red truth, it is possible. I do think that regardless, fragments with Lion are probably relatively (miraculously) rare, especially one where they survived.
Then again, I'm a sucker for impossible and inescapable fates, and like the symbolism of the whole thing with regards to how escaping from the cycle of abuse is impossible unless it's directly confronted (Lion is kept in ignorance, and thus cannot escape even by being accepted into the family).
anon-chan · 3mo
How is your experience with Persona 3 Reload???
Mixed, I feel like. On the one hand I do enjoy a lot of the new stuff they added, but some of the additional new content feels... meh? Like they felt like they needed to add in these character realizations that just don't 100% mesh with the already-established stuff sometimes. But the gameplay is really smooth, the music is great, the game is absolutely beautiful...
Then there's some really abysmal writing (in social links) that's leftover from the original game that I didn't experience before, since I played with FeMC. Also the general misogyny/male gaze of certain scenes. They removed the one NPC being a transmisogynistic caricature, so you'd think they could rewrite more things, but oh well. My original experience with male MC is with the manga/movies, which feels a lot less male gaze/pandering.
anon-chan · 3mo
I'm curious. Do we have confirmation that Kinzo really betrayed and killed the italians to take Beatrice? Or was it just what Sayo thought? Some stuff said by Kinzo in EP4 apparently support that idea, but then again, EP4 was written by Tohya in reality and by Beato in the meta world. Neither should know the real truth and could have been biased by their feelings of hate and disgust to Kinzo. Although he was undoubtedly terrible as a father, the Question Arcs paint Kinzo as a very cruel person that doesn't care about and even loathes his grandchildren, but Ryukishi confirmed that in fact Kinzo truly loved his grandchildren and acted around them like he was in EP8. So that was likely something Sayo wrote wrong because of their conflicted feelings??? there's also that part of Confession where they ask Genji about the corpses of the soldiers and if it was Kinzo who killed them all, but Genji is unable to answer (he wasn't there after all) and Sayo just assumes he did, hating themselves even more for having his blood.
All of this leads me to the famous red screen scene in tea party of Ep7. When Bern cuts Clair and her blood covers the screen, we see 3 scenes that were mostly seen as "red truths", but since it comes from Clair (Sayo), it's her blood, what she hide, maybe the weren't really red truths but what Sayo thought happened. After all, she wasn't there to know what Kinzo did, she only made a supposition.
This isn't about defending Kinzo. He's the character I hate the most and nothing excuses what he did to his children. But I was wondering if his relationship with Bice was truly like he told Will, who shouldn't have been able to see nothing but the truth with what Bern gave him, and the other version was actually what Sayo thought had happened.
We don't have 100% proof, no. In the end it's never stated with the red truth, so while we have hints that Kinzo did it (EP4 Kinzo, the EP7 Clair blood scene, the EP8 manga) we can't take them to be 100% truth. As you mentioned, everyone who writes about or brings up this possibility is someone who has reason to be biased against Kinzo, and no one was actually there at the time.
While it's a strong possibility that he did kill the soldiers/incite fighting, it's not confirmed. Though I do think that what Will sees can be tampered with: he does see Maria with Beatrice in her segment, which we know is Maria's perception of events rather than 1:1 with 'reality'. So it seems that if it matches how someone perceives an event, he might see that instead of the 100% unvarnished, objective version of events. Witnesses are allowed to be subjective and biased, after all.
In the end it ties into what a lot of Umineko is about: the subjectivity of it, of speaking about the dead from one's own limited memories or knowledge of them, the difficulty of knowing everything about someone, especially someone who has passed. And that applies to Kinzo especially. He was an abusive and terrible figure, but he also liked playing pranks, sometimes was kind to Shannon/Kanon, and, if we believe Episode 8, he may have even doted on his grandchildren at times, which can coexist along with EP1's Jessica's testimony about him spanking her.
anon-chan · 3mo
Hi! I'm the Higurashi anon! Do you think Beato and Battler would enjoy Higurashi? I think early Umineko actually mentioned the VN at some moment, which was likely funny, though I'm glad it didn't really spoiled me anything... though I have remembered an extra story of Umineko Saku where Lambda remembered how she fulfilled someone's wish of "becoming a god" with Hinamizawa in the background! I guess it was some kind of metaphor related to someone having that Certainty. I wonder if that person became "Oyashiro"......
But anyway! Do you think they would enjoy the VN???
I feel like they would! Battler has canonically read Higurashi and iirc he loved it (to be fair it's not clear whether he read the VN as we read it, or some other form of Higurashi). So I feel like they'd enjoy it a lot. I feel like Beato would especially enjoy the mysteries and also Oyashiro-sama's haunting presence over the story.
Also yeah, you're correct in the other ask you sent, it's a story from Tsubasa. It might be spoilers to speak more on it, but it does connect to Higurashi's story <3 Lambdadelta makes Higurashi references in Umineko proper as well.
anon-chan · 3mo
I kinda dislike Confession of the Golden Witch, too. But one thing I love from the manga was Cage of Obligations, the chapter right after Confession. I wish the VN had that.
anon-chan · 3mo
Hi! I'm the anon who started reading Higurashi! I just finished Watanagashi and 😭 this episode was pretty tame compared to Onikakushi, I only got scared a bit when Tanako started explaining how the villagers used to dissect humans and ate them during the festival in the past... and then the last scene of the episode happened AND OH MY GOD. I want to go back to Rokkenjima!!
I know it's likely just Keiichi alucinating a bloody Mion is killing him or something but THE REVEAL SHE WAS DEAD TIME AGO AND COULDN'T HAVE STABBED HIM??? TAKANO BEING 24 HOURS DEAD BY THE TIME THEY ENTERED THE SHRINE??? so so scary
my only logic theory is that it was Shion who stabbed Keiichi. It had to be her since Mion was dead. But why??? Did she go crazy after all the trauma? I even went a bit paranoic and started thinking that maybe she was the evil one all the time and Mion was actually the "Shion" jailed and tortured. But even then I don't have any explanation for Takano! Maybe the person we met was someone else impersonating the real Takano, using her name while they are different people???
I got so scary, this is so unsettling. I tried starting Tatarigoroshi but the intro menu with the scary dark bridge and telling me it's the "Curse Killing Arc" with the worst difficulty... i have the feeling this will totally surpass Onikakushi in terms of horror and i'm a coward
Grats on finishing watanagashi! Also I have no answers to give you for your theorizing but good luck! Higurashi still does have those mystery elements, huh... and they tie in with the horror so well. Fun stuff about Takano's death, what's going on with Mion... It is scary/unsettling, and I do think Tatarigoroshi will be worse. It's... well, good luck! I love Tatarigoroshi but, er... ahahaha.
anon-chan · 3mo
"If I have but one wish, let this message bottle never be seen by anyone's eyes."
anon-chan · 3mo
"Higurashi has a lot more of that horror element than Umineko does. They both feature descriptions of gore, but Higurashi does so more often and maintains an unsettling horror atmosphere for far longer than Umineko."
For how much is "far longer"? Like. The entire Question Arcs perhaps? Or does Higurashi keep the Horror the whole time?