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Flamy · 2y

i have no clue if this will even reasonably fit in one answer, but i do wish to know your criterion on "ideal male patheticness"

ok. the ideal pathetic male is purposely like that, like, he is doing the wrong thing on purpose. like, mr nothing and lee both are very competent people but they chose to suck. or alternatively is just the lamest fucking man ever. those are the two flavors i think really are pathetic

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