curious kind little mouse · 4mo

Please tell us more about ships that you loathe. I only see ships get hate when they are "toxic" (lol) to the general population. I want more pettiness such as:"Ugh, this character would definitely steal the other's glasses and refuse to give them back, so I don't ship them."

Sure I will be stinky, if you desire it. I do wish more people hated ships in the petty way — well... all ship hate is petty, so IG what I wish is that we all discussed it with acknowledgement to that pettiness. Instead of proposing it like a great moral quandary (because it's not, it can't be.) I always equate ship taste to food because 99% of the time it IS as arbitrary as loving watermelon popsicles but hating grape. With all the trappings of 'but I do like real grapes and grape juice even'. People could look at you and just not understand why you dislike something... Personally I just find this funny. Taste! It is what it is-!! It should just be funny when you see your friend really lay into some rando ship/character like whoaaa lol...! Haha.

Like Avvy said in her reply, I'm also bored by ships that feel... mundane, something one could experience IRL that lacks whimsy, a boring amount of... 'things that happen and aren't great'. The opposite of a fantasy. Why would I bother thinking about this... I suppose what I'll add on is some ships also give you a sense of wastefulness... Like someone is completely neglecting a perfect opportunity before them. Whatever people feel about how Light treats Misa YK? It's just a Waste.

As we are rewatching SU... For me, it's Steven/Connie that trip this frustration constantly. I'm like glaring at every intimate scene that passes by... knowing what their trajectory is in Future. It winds up feeling like... A WASTE! Like... all that time spent getting to know each other, training, sharing major experiences... BUT FOR WHAT!! For your friend to just organically move on after a couple years and focus on becoming a lawyer ig. That's soo crazy... Your minds and bodies have melded magically in a way no other human has ever experienced, through fusion. Connie dreamed of having a 'magic destiny' and got to BE a part of a 'universe'... ALL TO LIKE, HAVE A BIZARRELY MUNDANE LEVEL OF NEGLECTING A FRIEND AND NEEDING SPACE AND FOCUSING ON CAREER... OMG...!!

Ah they're unfortunately a ship that I used to find plenty cute... to, HATING TERRIBLY after the development in SU:F... It's rare that happens but, Connie's character was totally ruined for me, what with having her commit to education/college/prestige. The very things she was originally rebelling against her parents over...? How miserable. That would already be sad alone but, along with Steven spiraling & feeling left behind, along with her reacting poorly to his proposal... That's faaaaaaaar too depressingggg... It feels like any romance they had built up got shot down brutally, deconstructed to no return.

I always knew that part of the vision for SU was that it doesn't just 'end' with a 'happily ever after'... You don't get married and solve everything. It's something Rebecca has talked about + it was covered in the movie itself. I never thought that Steven/Connie were 'end game'...? (Not like I wanted it to be?) Er, I figured it'd just be a 'possibility'; something that Could be more, has plenty potential, but we just don't see the conclusion. That... I could accept, but, fsr the way we unpack the idea of 'happily ever after' is to... just, point blank have Steven panicking and overly needy with Connie and then her unable to accommodate... but to a cartoonish degree like, she can't set aside more than 15 minutes for him because she is so busy with school . And she wants to move across the country for college w/o really discussing it . and she has other perfectly normal friends accruing . and she herself is just not distressed or worried while Steven is like losing his mind, having breakdowns that result in things like. I mean Jasper nearly dying, and White, nearly, dying.

[inhales...] I'm someone who really adores childhood best friends, being hopelessly intertwined, soulmates... and I dislike respectability, academia, society. So this is like unfathomably upsetting to me to think about experiencing fjkjfjgjg... It's already tedious in life, when you have crushes on friends and it doesn't work out... But you're telling me that the crush is ignoring me serenading her on the beach 💢 after everything we've been through... just to read books 💢💢💢💢 It makes me want to kill Connie quite frankly. Ooh dumb little nerd, you just want to be independent and have cool educated friends. Fine. I understand why Steven just drives tf away at the end of the series.

Another ship that makes me feel the "you're wasting it" emotion is Roy/Riza... Though in this case it's seeing a girlie I like very much get treated in a way I can't stand, so I just want to break it up to get in there. The mundane aspect of this one is like the... way Roy is like her boss. So that's already disinteresting to me, idc about things like co-workers... Working a job together very boring. I like a submissive girl but it's sullied in a context like this for me, like, it's far too clinical and mired in obligations, to society, beh. Riza doesn't feel elevated enough from Roy's other comrades... Hughes or whatever tf. And that's gross to me, you can't have your girlie on the same level as your dude friend. DECLINED!!

Of course it's more complicated with these two than just working together... They do have 'a history', but it's ruined by the other thing I dislike: DADS!!! Roy having studied under Riza's father is gross. Since flame alchemy is evil & her dad was evil so Roy perpetuating his teachings feels, evil. And then Roy basically is the reason she enlists in the military & gets traumatized by. Seeing flame alchemy be used for a genocide. So Riza feels heavily responsible and carrying this eternal guilt, she lives a life full of toil and suffering as a way to 'atone'... and Roy just sees this and is like yep yeah. We'll just toil eternally and suffer. And be chaste ig, and I won't coddle you when you cry, and I also won't even honor our psycho arrangement where you can shoot me dead when I go nuts (bc when I do go nuts I'll just be soooo mad I don't wanna listen!!) Ugh.

Again it's just all these details that negate romance to me... negate exclusivity as well... I'm really mad that Roy would go ballistic over Hughes dying and in general just be protective of his crew. It's not like he's just really protective over Riza... Those two, their relationship is never going to crest into more, it has no reason to, so it won't. IT'S A WASTE THEN... YOU JUST HAVE A VERY LOYAL GIRL FOR NO REASON. And then you have the GALL to be thinking about girls in miniskirts. Grim to me. [gives Roy Mustang a wedgie]

Less intense but in the realm of FMA i also can't stand EdWin god. In this case it's not that I extremely stan Ed though, he is amusingly, shitty and. Like a funny character to me. But it is just an annoying relationship to spectate, it makes you think "these two need to just leave each other"... I don't really know what's gained from two fussy people who are going to yell at each other. Yet one of them IS like... ultimately very guilt-addled, self-hating and miserable. It just feels unnecessary then to get like whacked on the head by a wrenchf kfkgghf like that's not HELPING... ANYTHING. I look at edwin and it's really like a caveman relationship to me, barking at one another, then one of you gets BONKd.... No depth or value LOL. I can't imagine being stimulated by it. Just a bit too rote, shounen designated het, something something that girl you bicker with she's your first girl though so... Egh.

I realize I have this older retro reply where I'm breaking down why I don't like Sunny/Aubrey... So if you'd be interested in that, you can read it here. It's not nearly as bad as how much I dislike THAT RAT with Sunny, cuz I like Aubrey quite a bit, but I still don't like the idea of them together romantically. Amusingly one of those things where I just cannot fathom either person 'making a move'... Inert.

Hm that's probably plenty to read... heh. Enjoi lol

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