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may i ask a bit more about your tomoko and tomoki concepts? i know that it probably was a passing interest for you. but i'm curious what you thought about their dynamic overall. hope, that's okay to ask!
Oh sure... 9.9 I could drum up a summary of sorts, for my HCs/concepts for the Kuroki sibs. It's true that it was a passing fancy, but in the month or so I spent innit, I did romp around... Had fun, stimulating thots.
When I had first started watching/reading Watamote, I had done so out of simply curiosity to see more of Tomoko. It was a rather casual curiosity... I didn't expect much, I just wanted to learn more about what made her waifu material. Naturally, I had seen art of her over the years, and I mentally categorized her as being a type of girl like say, Konata from Lucky Star. I figure she was a lazy otaku, perhaps with more of a shut-in flavor. Was quite surprised she was far more miserable and unwell than I had the impression of — like, a social reject, anxious to the point of paralysis when talking to others, bitter, self-hating... But most shocking was that she was VERY, VERY HORNY like listening to yandere audios and playing otome games... Far more explicitly horny than I could have expected, so like, her desperation to stop being unpopular is a lot more about wanting to get laid... Which is so real for a teen girl fkfjshsfhh...
Part 2, I was unaware Tomoki even existed... and. Well. The way she sexually harasses him was rather appealing to me kfkf... so I started having investment in the two as a ship. At first it was frustrating that he was a stick in the mud, not playing along with her (I have a low tolerance for shitty boys...!!) But, that was quickly remedied when that he absolutely adored her as a child... To the point of, wanting to marry her, and wanting to get kisses from her... This new fact really shot through my brain. IIYARGHHH...!! What a thing to be true, about a boy like Tomoki... He appears like such a 'normal boy', irritated by sis, wanting her to leave him alone and stay out his room, just playing soccer or w/e. But I think it's genuinely more complicated if he used to be very close to her, and had a wee little crush...
Actually, an important detail is that the two have only recently drifted this apart from one another, so there hasn't been this much friction for the majority of their childhood! Tomoko reflects that they were playing video games together still, about a year before the start of the manga (iirc...) Recent developments... slowly petering out. It's kinda fascinating, they're not exactly like two siblings who have been at each other's throats for years...
Another thing of note: Tomoko was a very good big sister, once...! She was caring and attentive, playing with little Tomo-kun... He loved her for a reason!! With only a year apart between them, I imagine she felt like his best friend... In general, Tomoko bemoans how life was simpler and easier for her in the past; she did not always struggle with speaking to others... I figure her threshold is more suited to grade-school work/engagements... and as her peers mature around her / expectations increase, she is floundering underneath the pressure. Ofc another layer is I think puberty has made her crazy, basically immobilized with a desire for sex, while also unable to overcome how difficult it is to even exist now... As much as Tomoko has become more selfish, and poorly behaved, I feel like I understand why... After all, she still tends to get along well with young boys. T_T It's a 'loser' trait of hers, but I find it cute, and it makes me emo. She's got a very specific skillset.....
Likewise, even though Tomoki acts harsh, pushes her away, I kind of pity him to a degree. I feel like he once had all of Tomoko's care and attention... but as she aged, it fizzled out, and she became obsessed with other things, locking herself in her room for hours, on the computer all the time... She is uncontrollably teasing and pushy, wanting to use him for practice to improve speaking to others... I think he starts to feel like 'a means to an end' for her, which is very painful... and, embittering. I guess I kind of see him as a boy who was 'rejected' by his crush, who still has to Live with his crush, who minimizes the significance of their relationship, unknowingly... I think he used to be more reactive and emotional, but shut down, out of self-preservation, and is now a stone-wall when being called a siscon, or asked to show his cock. He kind of has to... kill, all the preciousness held between them, and go, whatever . We're not little kids anymore. So, it's fine. I don't care . [lays it all to rest...] [heart... encases in chains...]
It just so happens that his aloof, disaffected swag, and severe gaze draws in a lot of intrigue. Which leads to being seen as handsome, sports star... But er, I think Tomoki is amusingly irritated by the attention he gets; it is no great boon to him... He's a surprisingly passive guy, and he lacks motivation seemingly, to do much... A normal boy would be more proactive and cashing in on the social clout, would be making attempts at having a gf?? But he seems to have negative interest in any such thing... only doing 'the bare minimum' and getting by. Listless in his own way, but more dead-eyed about it, and able to perform 'well enough'. I think he detaches from everything and doesn't inhabit his emotions and thoughts very much at all anymore... Which is easier than being emotionally wrought, like Tomoko is. She is desperate and needy, vying for a solution to her misery... Which is challenging for Tomoki. He doesn't want, nee-chan to, greatly suffer, either, he's just... bitter. She really does make it more complicated by acting out tastelessly, and uhh, being willing to do things like, threaten suicide/self-harm fjfhhsh... I think he cannot remotely gauge how sincere or insincere she is, moment to moment, which makes her frustrating to give an inch...
... buuuut, Tomoko is very unwell and deprived, and I think it's fair to say that from HER perspective, everything is going well for Tomoki, and he doesn't even 'need her anymore'... It is unbelievably frustrating to her that he just brings friends over, is seemingly effortlessly popular, but not even doing anything 'with it'... Incel rage!! I think it has to manifest in calling him derogatory things like, soccer cock. And well I do think he ought to be more noble and sacrifice his ego for nee-chan's sake... She really needs the help. The fact that their mom has started to treat her poorly and dislikes her behavior sucks... Labeled the Problem Child, in a way. She's just terribly lonely... and self-hating... I really think touch, intimacy, sex, would fix her. If Tomoki thinks she's, attractive, he kind of owes her all of that,,,, but yk, easier said than done.
In the end, me and Avvy workshopped multiple situations where Tomoko ended up in a psych ward... In one instance, due to fucking around too much with self-aphyxiation, being found passed out & rushed to a hospital, and deemed as having attempted suicide. Also have explored her having a genuine psychotic break, with varying results, I know in one path she was having a major debacle with her mom and Tomoki stepped in, and in that instance got attacked physically by her (clawed his face real good, got him in the eye...) The point of these were kind of, to force Tomoki to recognize just HOW unwell Tomoko was, and how he'd have to stop being stoic if he wanted to see her better, or even be able to still live with her...
More chicanery based RPs were things like, Tomoko accidentally emailing Tomoki a piss video of herself... We prefer to work in the earlier series 'timeline' bc I do not care for when they introduce 10 random girls or w/e, but there was a scenario in later manga where some girls are over and trying to. Give him a boner but just. Can't. But we thought about this veering into actual sexual harassment towards him and his antisocial siscon ass just vomiting in panic, which leads to Tomoko intervening... and the two having to, investigate, if he has a borked sexuality or what... Que Tomoko having to introduce her brother to sex media. :) Boy has she got you.
That's just a generalized idea of it but... [waves] Hopefully fun to read... I like how unwell Tomoko is and want to give it due respect in exploration... I feel like Tomoki is maladaptive as well, and has an aching romantic heart (... buried deep in there...) which is something to struggle to unearth... It is a challenge but it is stimulating. The idea that a boy's first kiss and first wuv was his older sister and he's struggling with the fallout... kawaii. Nee-chan is a sex pest and does not think romantically so that's another issue.,, ,,, ,, You don't want her to feel validated that you are a 'siscon' because kfjdgh it's more special than that-!!!!! [cry]
Hm what else... I have thought about them at a younger age messing, but only vaguely... It's not impossible but, AMUSINGLY, I like to think their relationship was rather simplistic when they were very young, because they were both childish and braindead... I think about young Kurokis forreals just bug hunting and playing leapfrog together. LOVING to do it, play all day, eat shaved ice, but not,,, able to,,, conceptualize more... Sex pheromones not hit them yet. But hm I still think something could percolate... Middle school Tomoko esp is appealing to smink about... She's becoming chuuni after all.
That's all I have to say...! (‾◡◝)
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