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Please, don't mind me ranting, you don't even need to reply, I just needed to SPEAK >.<
Not going to mention any maet ship in this cuz baby boy has already gone through a lot but, Lol, I feel like I have to defend myself as someone who has two NOTPs and who is a monogamist regarding one member. (not from you because yeah, why tf would anyone search for their Notp, ew, I want that shit away from me), but from that anon because… most shippers have a Notp even if they don't call it that, and the large majority are like… normal about it.
I know that comment wasn't directed at ppl like me who are not gonna go on a witch hunt of whoever ships my NOTPs, but I don't think the deal breaker is having a NOTP or being a monogamist or not. I think is that a lot of people, shipper or not, 1- have no idea how to fandom and 2- cling to a moral high ground to try and justify any negative feelings they have so they can avoid some weird new kind of guilt from disliking something just because you dislike something. Also 3- which is people forget that yes you can curate your experience and just block ppl (in my case that's not feasible but I mute the ship names), but I don't think I wanna dive into that.
I still remember getting death threats over a certain Haikyuu ship. People said it was because one was a third year in high-school and the other was a first year in high-school. The real reason was because they, who were halves of two of the top 5 or 6 most popular ships in the fandom at the time, had a growing fanbase who didn't pretend to care about the other ships like other rarepairs did, we only ever posted about our OTP and God, did people hate that.
I've got my NOTPs, both in rps and fiction ships, including two in jbw — neither including members of my otp —, but I'd never talk about it in public in any way people can find. I've got them in on my rps chart marked as NOTP so people can stay away if they want (and they may know why I mute/block/unfollow them), but whenever I want to vent is always vague, it's always "them" instead of name or I censor the name (not my Notp but this one is so work relationship coded for me, I still read cuz fiction is fun, but everytime I see tinhatting I'm like "do they know each other?")
Maybe that's because I've got Tumblr manners — You don't tag the media, you don't tag the memebrs/characters, you don't tag your Notp as (e.g.) neulbin, you tag it as antineulbin, so people can block the tag (and you) and your hate won't show up when people search the ship, but the people who share the same opinion can find you.
It's just… there are lines, yk? So that's my point one, fandom manners. This rps community lacks fandom manners. No one is saying you can't have NOTPs, just be fucking sensible about it.
On the second point is what bothers me the most: People try to justify their hate.
OK, you can try and explain, I mean, I hate that one canon ship because those characters were changed not by the narrative but by the author, with no reason, so yeah, fuck that. But I ain't gonna get on my moral horse, ride to moral hill and give my little moral proclamation in my shining moral armor.
You don't even BELIEVE what you're saying, you just want to have some backing for your opinion. Those people talk the same way the anti-rps do. They reduce morals, they use ad absurdum fallacies with the craziest equivalency, they clearly give no fucks to what they claim to be defending because they are OK with a similar situation as long as is not the one they hate.
They can't own up to the fact that they just DISLIKE stuff with no superior reason. Because that's what bad people do. They hate for no reason. And they'd rather die than be a bad person. Except that's not a "bad person" exclusive! That's human! Sometimes you see a new coworker and you just absolutely don't vibe with them. You still gotta be polite, you owe them respect. And yeah, some stuff you can't just block or mute because it's everywhere and maybe your work friend also hate them so you two can talk about how the way they fill their coffee with sugar is soooo obnoxious, but you ain't doing all that anywhere this coworker or ANYONE ELSE, for that matter, can hear. That's the different between being just human and being a bad person.
I guess that's why people get so mad with dead dove do not eat, because they think enjoying fiction like that means you enjoy it in reality as well.

Whew, had to get it all out. Sorry for the pointless rambling.

SORRY I HAD TO REPLY because I agree with literally EVERYTHING you said. (dw i won't post on twt)

personally i don't mind monogamists as long as they.. yknow, just stay in their lane and not shit on other ships bc hey, we're different people, we can't like the same things, and sending me hate just because you don't ship my ship won't make me run over to your side lol

FANDOM MANNERS. yes yes yes!!! that's what people are lacking. I'm led to believe that a huuuuuge number of these people are very young and new fans, hence impressionable and would tend to behave how their mutuals behave. like you, tumblr also raised me. that's why i'm also aware that you should not tag what you don't want to be seen by people who do not have you in their radar.

"No one is saying you can't have NOTPs, just be fucking sensible about it." ㅡ YES!! you CANNOT expect everyone to ship everyone, not everyone multiships, I myself have NOTPs (i have one of them indicated in my ship chart) so people would know that they will not find me talking about this ship in an rps context. it's okay to have notps just... for fucking sake, at least censor the ship name if you want to talk about it so bad so we don't find it in the searches.

"OK, you can try and explain, I mean, I hate that one canon ship because those characters were changed not by the narrative but by the author, with no reason, so yeah, fuck that. But I ain't gonna get on my moral horse, ride to moral hill and give my little moral proclamation in my shining moral armor." ㅡ i had a little giggle this was so funny. but you're absolutely right about people having that need to be in a moral high ground when they say they dislike something. not everything needs a very deep reason, if i don't ship your ship it's ONLY because they're not my cup of tea. no other explanation needed because there's no other reason. but that doesn't mean that I should attack everyone who ARE into it. there's no actual merit in fighting people who like the things you hate.

"I guess that's why people get so mad with dead dove do not eat, because they think enjoying fiction like that means you enjoy it in reality as well." ㅡ omg this is a recurring discourse in anime twt. people shit on people for being "proshippers" and proshipping has lost its meaning because a lot of people seem to think that if you're a proshipper it means that consuming dark themes/dead dove means that you also like it irl, when proshipping means that you allow and respect all ships, tropes, and themes.

while reading your rs I keep saying to myself, 'omg is this person ME' because everything you said is exactly what I think. it all boils down to fandom manners. it's such a broad topic and it shouldn't only cover rps but also non-rps spaces bc man... the shit people say to/about other people, and even about the artists themselves in this fandom. there's a clear lack of respect and self awareness.

thank you for ranting to me!! and it's not pointless rambling because you made A LOT of great points! also, lastly.... is that haikyuu ship oikage? (they're the only 3rd yr-1st yr popular pair I could think of rn) lol

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