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nonny · 15d

im a different anon but the way people in fandom treat masc/androgynous female characters (not even butch) is so strange it's like they're always trying to outwoke themselves. you'll see people posting stuff like "let butches wear makeup!" or if its a b/f couple they'll put the butch in a dress and the femme in a suit because they think it's more subversive and progressive for some reason. idk what goes on in these peoples heads but it's as if they think making a gnc character feminine makes them more gnc somehow. yet i rarely see people masculizing feminine female charas, it really just goes one way bc women can't just be masculine and stick with that presentation. also the treatment arle got from fandom was pretty 💀 for other reasons and she's not even butch

omg seriously re arlecchino. i try to ignore parts of the canon design and make her butch in my HEART but you're right she's not even - but regardless it's still explicitly stated she does not like dresses and has never worn one, and i nearly have a stroke whenever i have to see fanart that STILL PUTS HER IN DRESSES. some people really can't comprehend a woman who doesn't want to be hyper-feminine even when she outright states it. it drives me crazy

thinking about the first part... i think it goes back to what i've talked about before where people think butch is a failure to do femininity and/or just a mimicry of male masculinity (which yikes, but a common belief even if people don't admit it). so if you believe that makeup and dresses are genderless (which of course is fine to have as a goal) or can be masculine, then butches can wear those things and it's actually close-minded for you to disagree! but that's NOT what butchness is, so they completely get it wrong and it's really offensive!!

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