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im a gvu bbg stan but op tweet(at least imo, they lost me big time with the daddy part tho, so unnessesary to add 😭) wasnt about how he cant be both, is about how mayority of the fandom(maybe im following the wrong ppl idk but this is from my perspective) only see his as a bbg or (if we talk in nsfw twt) bottom sub bbg and nothing more not even a sub top bbg(which is the best combo imo) and are constanly erasing that he also has very masculine traits(that are what those images gives) my guy can be both but why is it that everytime someone points out those or is appreciated of those traits of him ALWAYS someone comes and says stuff like u do? WE KNOW WE LOVE IT but we also want him to be appreciate of his other traits too without someone pointing the obvious, op could had worded it better even me too(sorry my english) especially bc of the whole fem/masc and their impact on nsfw writting like how a lot of ppl interact with top/sub from the fem/masc aspects, i get it really, also op pointed out the lack of top gvu so u might see why those photos were so !!! (like i said it affects the nsfw aspect, but i could tell you the lack of sub top(my fave) and dom top gvu in his most popular ships so we are a bit in a drought😭 like i can count like 3 authors who constanly do topgvu(sub and dom) for my fave ship and they barely active) it would be nice for once to see appreciation for those type of photos and traits of him without someone bringing the bbg, he is a very confident guy in both of his traits and we love him for it, just for once let us cheer in peace on how hot he looks like that bc we are also cheering on his next bbg photo and how hot he looks. This however doesnt excuse those who only see him as a top dom bc of the whole masc traits but those same ppl are with the ones who only see him as bbg sub bottom bc of his fem traits, like you 2 have u ever heard of versatility??? bc i would point out the latter is way more common that the first.
if the tweet was just "look how daddy dom top" gyu looks here i wouldnt have said anything lmao even i disagreed on shadows and contrats making him more masc but i digress. i didnt qrt the post bc "oh no theyre coming after bbg gyu/stans whatever will i do 😱" but bc they were conflating masc with dom/top which is just. blegh. i went in more detail on my other retro but yeah, theyre not the same so im gonna point it out. and im also a subtop bg enthusiast but personally idc what other ppl prefer, if u wanna make posts about how dom or masc or fem or sub he looks go ahead, just dont imply that someone fem cant be a dom, someone masc cant be a bottom, etc etc.
Mo4n twt are OBSESSED with gender stereotypes and gender roles like why can’t a bbg be a top or why can’t a masc be a bottom I don’t understand the obsession it’s so stupid🤦🏽♂️ It kinda reminds me of when straight people ask gay couples who wears the pants in the relationship because they NEED to find “the girl” In the relationship
see my last retro for a more nuanced reply but tldr i dont think it's necessarily that ppl are obsessed but that they don't have a proper understanding of top/bottom, masc/fem, dom/sub, etc etc and end up using them interchangeably and in the most stereotypical way possible and yeah its very frustrating to see </3
hii !! just a comment i thought of sharing abt this situation (https://twitter.com/shroomdelights/status/1781417755054428654?s=46) bc i’ve seen a lot and maybe you wouldn’t mind my opinion 😞 i think that mostly ppl who deny anything (esp masculinity in order to give preference to feminist) are the majority.. i know it depends on the encounters one person can witness, and i’m judging just from my personal experience of ~3+ years in rps and it’s been quite an issue for last 2+ years i think? especially with how determined ppl with perceiving only one feminine side. so i felt like it’s a little unfair to shift the attention from it bc it open up another opportunity for people to fixate on his feminine side under the guise of “stop denying his femininity”, which is not that often a case. yet!! very important!! i think that regarding these exact pictures it’s very very disturbing that two of them are edits on the purpose to highlight his “masculine” features in order to make him “fitting” to some standard of the masculinity ppl have. i’m not yet sure about the edits but i’ve never found it anywhere except bearbun’s page and love insurance haven’t posted not-whitewashed-og-pictures either so i assume this is an edit. which is…. just disturbing and weird. and i agree totally that it would be better to just leave it be because he can be both and he is perfect balance of both which opens up so many opportunities abt how one person can characterise / view him, so many depths and dimensions. it’s more like when we talk about the denial of one side it would be better (probably) to always remind that it’s not one-sided and there was a major issue with the other side bc the reaction to “denying masculinity in order to highlight his feminity” talk recently has been taken pretty negatively aside from several ppl as if it’s non-existent issue and there is nothing wrong abt it, then “denying his feminity to highlight his masculinity” is always as something “wrong” or “weird” or idk. like.. nothing should be denied but while we are in such paradigm it’s not that possible anymore ;-; idk how to wrap this think piece and if you read it but thank you a lot if you do !!
there are several things i want to touch on this so please bear with me. first of all i have seen the discourse surrounding this is issue and i very much agree with the points that where made, especially by transmasc and trans men in the community. that being said i also think the rpf fandom is probably not ready to have that conversation in any meaningful and nuanced way. what i mean by this is that a lot of people have a very narrow and oftentimes just downright erroneous understanding of gender identity, gender expression, queer sexual preferences, queer identity, etc etc. and that also crosses on the fact that how you understand gender is a very personal and subjective thing that may also carry its own stereotypes, biases, etcetc.
so that's how you get people clamoring for more "masculine" bg and equating that with being a "dom top daddy" which reinforces the gender binary in a personally uncomfortable way, much in the same way people equating "sub bottom bbygirl" with "feminine" does. i think both are part of the problem and that's why i highlighted it, because regardless of if it happens more or less often it's still part of the issue. the solution isn't to go one way or the other but to better educate ourselves on terms like top/bttm, dom/sub as well as deepen our understanding of gender beyond stereotypes and societal norms. i'm personally on that journey as i admit i am still learning and i don't think there's any shame on that !
i hope this is understandable, and thank you for sharing your opinion and allowing me to share mine as well !
(p.s: i believe my tweets yesterday might've been a bit too combative/snarky, i was in a bad mood and i think i could've handled it better)
@/bomkaibread should tag their fic dynamics properly https://archiveofourown.org/works/51854719
i haven't even read this fic but one cursory glance tells me all i need to know about it. if you care that much about bottom/top dynamics and you skipped the author's note that's on you anon. i get being peeved or whatever but coming here of all places to air such a petty complaint is plain ridiculous im sorry. if you really think it's that serious then go to the author directly and if you already did and they ignored you then take the hint and move on my god
p.s. yue dear im so sorry people are this dumb im sure the fic is lovely and u did nothing wrong <33
I need to know what single video made ur friend immediately say sub top sbn
it wasn't even a clip of him doing anything it was this chasing that feeling fancam 😭
https://youtu.be/GYC7fctSYYg?si=tzJLzQunmPvTUIhs
have you read thee ynbngyu at the dream's end https://archiveofourown.org/works/27131833/chapters/66255172
https://twitter.com/shroomdelights/status/1682935912605335552?s=20
app.4thewords.com ?
https://twitter.com/shroomdelights/status/1681017525818064900?s=21&t=BkT4FMtpJjjLWynD3nz_2Q the trust issues stem from constantly being tricked by kvi's realistic looking clip ons before and i believe that's also the case here 😭😭😭
i wonder how ao3 user qimuri's brain works. i see them comment on fics sometimes and tho they're positive comments, they don't put those fics in their bookmark. so like why not bookmark those fics instead of fics they don't like? like just don't bookmark fics you don't like ffs no one wants to hear it.
couldn't agree more and also at first i genuinely thought that maybe they didn't know authors could see their bookmarks but after that gift fic telling them to stop got posted they've already saved another bookmark with 1 star so i guess they're just a fcking dick 💀 really wish there was a way for authors to prevent them from reading their fics bc they really don't deserve this
hello! in case no one told you this yet, then i'll be the one telling you this; you're doing great, you've done your best, and amazing things are coming to you! :) 💫💛
i have a crush on you
TYVNNING AS ITAFUSHI JSJSJD ur mind... 3choi being students together and gyv 💀, so tyvnning only knowing him as the curse... ur a genius ily <33 one day id attempt to write sth like that in my notes app (and then never share it) im in love w this
THEY JUST FIT OKAY !! IN MY MIND THEY FIT !!! actually i was thinking tyvn would have known him, bc kvi doesn't come in until his second year and gyv dies on tyvn's first year, mostly bc i am a sucker for taegyv angst <33 omg you and me 🤝 writing things that'll never see the light of day ajhdah i actually already wrote a scene for this au that i'll probably never post but its basically a little conversation between kvi and bmgyv in which he basically tells him it doesn't matter that he's a curse, or whether he is the 'real bmgyv' or not bc he's only ever known him and he loves that person, whoever or whatever he is. its not that good but im a sucker for that sort of thing so yeah !
(also if you wanna share it if you do write it you can always send it and i won't post it if you don't want to,,or you can slide on my dms,,,,just saying 👀)
i saw u talking to a moot about antichrist, who is your favorite antichrist boy?
its bmgyu, it'll always be bmgyu. like im sorry thats my ride or die !! the apple of my eye !!! he can do no wrong and idec if he's a little bit of a mary sue bc i would Die for him and—well, you get the idea asjdhdf
aside from that very obvious answer tho i really love ac!yjn too !! like ive seen a lot of reaction threads be very sad about him not being anyones 'favorite' but I actually see where he's coming from and how he might be satisfied and content with the way things shaped up in their little polycule ! like idk about u but being someones 'favorite' in the way it's presented in ac is,,a bit of a Lot ?? (especially with soogyv) which is something desirable for a lot of people but definitely not me !! and i can see how yjn might prefer his romantic relationships a little less intense. its not like they don't adore him either, and in a sense the favorite thing is described as something almost intrinsic, something neither of them 'chose' really and so, having boyfriends that have that and still choose to love and care for you is special in its own way !! idk i just love how yjn handles it and avoids typical tropes that come with that sort of thing !
(as a complete aside id sacrifice my first born child to read ac!yeonkai's ritual,,,just had to put it out there)
sorry,,,u just asked for my favorite boy and i wrote a dissertation on a random aspect of the story,,,look i have worms in my brain and they love antichrist a lot and that's about as much explanation as i can give you asjdf (also take this as an open invitation to come here and talk about it or any other birdy fic if u want bc i love them all and would love to talk about them into oblivion <3)
gyv as rika, sb as yuta, kvi as inumaki, th as maki and everybody falls in love w gyv somehow???🤔 id put yj as gojo but itd be weird hfjgjfgi
actually i did cook this au a little ! so far i have yjn as maki, kvi as yuuji and tyvn as megumi (bc im itafushi trash first human second). but yes predictably they all do end up falling in love for gyv/each other ashkjds the plot i have in mind so far is also a bit different than the jjk one. like i have 3choi being first years together, tyvn would be a year younger and gyv would die at the beginning of his second year, so kvi would never get to know the "real" choi bmgyu but the curse sbn created. i did also think of an au where bmgyu is yuta and sbn is rika too,,,clearly the jjk brainrot is real rn ahsjd also sorry for the late reply !! i keep thinking ive replied and no i just drafted it at work then forgot to send 😭</3
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