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sorry to yap "discourse" like that but i wonder if u think femme butch etc is kinda heteronormative just by the same logic uke and seme are
im just curious abt this as a lesbo cuz the reason why yaoi is heteronormative is cuz ukes have female characteristics but in a man meanwhile semes have male ones n in the conversation as to why butchfemme is not heteronormative is cuz a woman is not expected to be masc n women arent expected to date each other so i thought it was interesting n want to know what u think
I don't think butchfemme is heteronormative at all. To be honest, the biggest reason I think seme/uke dynamics can technically be described as heteronormative is specifically because it's fictional and because yaoi artists/writers are specifically modeling the seme/uke dynamic after straight relationships. Calling real life queer people's relationship dynamics heteronormative (including gay men's but SPECIFICALLY butchfemme, considering how butchfemme relationships were also for safety reasons in the past) is highkey queerphobic like I would never ever call a queer person irl heteronormative.
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