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hi! i’m asking genuinely here because i came across ur rs and tweets in different occasions about this topic and ofc feel f… — I mostly just meant how people will get this idea, for example, that minho is mean or cold or whatever and i’ll see that on … https://retrospring.net/@honeyeaters/a/113335808728192679
thank you for answering! i agree with why you said tho i think it’s mostly inevitable unfortunately, i just hope people will be able to relax more and have a better time in their own spaces
hi! i’m asking genuinely here because i came across ur rs and tweets in different occasions about this topic and ofc feel free to ignore this
what do you mean when you say “top/bottom discourse in general and how it bleeds into how people treat the members irl” ? because from my understanding people in this space are writing stories and porn so how is the way sex is written any different from the different plot and character traits people give to mnsvng ? i mean rpf is already quite frowned upon in normal kpop fan spaces so ig i don’t get what the problem here is since it’s all made up anyways, people always have their own idea of how an idol is in their head, fanfic or not.
ofc i do agree that you have a right to complain on ur own account just like the other people did though it’s true that it makes the rpf/nsfw space kinda unbearable sometimes lmao even when i do believe that most people here are not serious when they tweet.
sorry if this is a bit convoluted english is not my first language
I mostly just meant how people will get this idea, for example, that minho is mean or cold or whatever and i’ll see that on sfw as well, or it will start as a sfw thing and then come on to rpf, and it’s just an ugly cycle of things going back and forth. I’ve seen this a lot with members being infantilized as well (not using an example bcs i’ve probably seen it for all of them). And I’m also talking about how people will take real moments of the members and twist them so it’s like “oh he’s doing this and this because of this” and I understand that this is a fictional space, but sometimes that line gets blurred if that makes sense? Because there is no true divide between sfw and nsfw and rpf, there are accounts that occupy all spaces, so things never stay purely in one of them.
my tweet really wasn’t serious at all, and I was making the same point that so many people are yelling at me for supposedly perpetuating 😭 I was just saying idc and that I don’t think other people should either. I think I could have worded that phrase differently, but the bottom line is idc, and I don’t think that sex positions are personality traits, so to say “oh this person can’t do this and this person can’t do this because of x, y, and z” is silly to me. Of course people can have preferences, and the only issue i’ve had, and have repeatedly stated, is when someone acts like their preference is “correct” and gets mad when other people don’t agree, to which I say: who cares, let’s just have fun and enjoy what we enjoy. I hope this answers your question? And again, I think I could have just phrased that better initially.
Oh my god I’ve finally done it! I’ve spent like the past week trying to find your story Spellbound bc it reappeared in my brain and absolutely refused to leave until I found it again and I was insane and forgot to bookmark it last time. Like I’m not exaggerating when I tell you I’ve had dreams about this story. Love you love your work you’re so cool and you write so well 10/10 🙇♀️🙇♀️🙇♀️🙇♀️
MWAH 💚💖
your oomf leeeknaur is weird as fuck maybe i’d believe you if you weren’t buddies with tons of people who do what u say u don’t like being done to ms
i’ve never spoken to that person ever so … I wouldn’t call that buddies … I hardly interact with ANYONE on this account actually so idk who you think my “buddies” are because believe it or not I do not know every thing about every single person I follow nor do I condone or agree with everyone’s actions lmao I actually have my own opinions that are not influenced by other people …
but why are you people never mad about ultra feminizing of minho, or people who make jisung more masculine than he is just for him to top (even tho he can top and still be the way he is!) or say that his personality is fake and tons of other bad things but get mad about someone jokingly saying he can’t be an alpha it’s just sooo transparent
I don’t like any of those things either, I actually dislike them strongly, but I don’t understand how that factors into this anyhow. If you look at any thing I’ve ever said about any of this (which really isn’t much) you will see that my position has only ever been that I like it when people write minsung as multifaceted human beings, and that I think it’s silly to consider one portrayal the “correct one,” and get mad when people don’t agree. And that’s all I said this time too. And I think my minsung reflects that, or at least, that’s what I work towards.
I actually care significantly more about everything you said in the first half of this message than I do about fucking omegaverse dynamics. I don’t even really TALK about the omegaverse or even read it or like it that much lmao. And I don’t care what people do with it bcs it isn’t real, there are no rules, you can make anyone whatever you want and it doesn’t affect me in any way. And the same goes for top/bottom I literally do not care, and think it’s silly when people do, which is once again, all i’ve said.
I don’t know how you got any of this out of me essentially saying people shouldn’t get upset about what dick goes in what hole but okay. Preferences are fine! Getting mad about them is less fine! That’s all I said, and I don’t know how many more ways I can say that.
are people not allowed to just say hey where’s other people who like what i like! in an innocent way and not saying anything bad abt whatever the fuck you like…. Give it a rest if u actually liked them switching you wouldn’t be mad about this
If you actually looked at what I said, you would see I wasn’t talking about those people (that is totally okay!) I was talking about the people who WERE saying bad things, and being weird about other people’s preferences. And if you looked at anything I’ve ever recommended or written you would see I DO like them switching so I suggest you start doing research before entering my inbox. Because I’m not mad, I just thought SOME people were being annoying, said my one piece about it, and moved on. Something the people flooding my inbox rn have not done!
you’re annoying and write jisung weird so now what
Hi, I'm the anon you so respectfully responded to (about the discourse stuff), and I just wanted to say, thank you? Like, I am so the same way, and I definitely did not see what you had seen. I actually only saw people saying things like 'I hate t0p/bttm discourse', and really not seeing, well, I guess the discourse YOU saw. And whenever I did see it, it was people tweeting in response to it, and suspiciously sounding like they were talking about the initial post. And while the initial poster could've picked their words, perhaps, a bit better, it didn't feel like it was targeted with any condemning or malicious intent (not in a serious way, at least). However, I didn't realize there were others who, in response to that tweet, felt vindicated to act as if there were any 'wrong' or 'right' way, and to abhorrently shit on the opposite dynamics simply for existing, especially when said opposite dynamics is the less popular one. It's frustrating. I've actually been there (as someone who typically does lean one way or the other with dynamic preferences for ships), so I get it, lol.
You're 100% correct, though, you have all the right to make a post on your own opinion, and that the response wasn't any type of 'overreaction', I was wrong to call it that. I apologize for behaving in, well, a rather hypocritical way. I suppose I was taking my frustration out on you that the initial post sparked anything in the first place. I'm in the same boat as you in regards to just being sick of it in general. I'm sorry you had to deal with others coming on here to hate instead of ignoring the post you had every right to make, and moving on :(
I know you wanted nice questions sent, and while I'm (pretty) sure I'm not being mean, I doubt you appreciate the reminder, so I'm sorry about sending you this, but I couldn't resist with how nice you were! Please, have a lovely day~ :3 <333
Hi! I appreciate this so much! It feels really good to have an actual conversation and not just get yelled at lol.
I appreciate the apology, and I hope you can see where i’m coming from that it felt a little unfair to me for people to tell me I can’t complain because … people have the right to complain? idk lol, and again thank you!
I understand that we’re all seeing different things, and so we’re often missing context, so no worries about anything :) I’m sure that there were a lot of really nice and normal posts and interactions that I was not seeing, but alas … the algorithm was not on my side this time.
Thank you again for being so nice 🩷 and I hope you have a good day too!
"1.) there is, factually, more bttm svng content than bttm mnho 2.) why are you so bothered by seeing one over the other and 3.) mnsng vers supremacy" You want a really big dick in your ass and you don't know how to ask for it
I’m sorry but I’m genuinely confused over what the insult is even supposed to be here like … okay? What am I meant to take away from this?
To reiterate each of my points: 1.) that is true, 2.) I don’t see the point in getting actually angry over whose fictional dick goes in whose fiction ass, and 3.) I like vers minsung. Is that clearer? Do I need to break it down further? Can you point out to me which parts of that are actually worth being mad about? And why should I care that you read my >30 word, singular tweet on an account I barely use, and felt the need to come all the way to my inbox to tell me … that? Have a nice day 🫶🏻
your favorite minsung?? oh i am sat...i cannot wait for the sillies who are a little sad and their inevitable minsung yearning i will be patiently waiting for them
ELL ME EVERYTHING ABOUT MERMAID MINHOOOO (yelled affectionately)
i look forward to everything you write i’m sooo excited for the next fic you post
https://x.com/hon3yeaters/status/1847137282551152883?t=damSiXv_DlZZDJnW-s4NTg&s=19
I have a feeling I know what this is in response to. While I have no problem with admitting that you're 100% right, there's more bttm!Jsng then there is bttm!mnho content, it's a bit different with Twitter's timeline algorithm, and it doesn't matter if there's more or less, especially if it's trending for whatever reason. And it's not wrong for someone to have a preference in those regards. The person wasn't hating either. They were just stating their opinion. Something that you can just scroll past and ignore. Or even block them. So you don't see their content? No hate, or anything, it just seems... Like some people got overly triggered by that post?? Overreacted??? Idk, making a problem out of nothing. Making t0p/bttm discourse when there wasn't any?
Anyways, love to all the st4ys, no matter their personal preference <333
Hi anon, I’m less referring to the initial post and more referring to the influx of people that came with it that started complaining and saying their preference was inherently better because it was “more correct.” I don’t have issue with people’s preferences because when it comes to strictly top/bottom, I don’t have one! I really do not care and will write them or read them both ways all the time which is why I ended that tweet with a lighthearted cheer for vers mnsng lol. I just got irritated by the amount of people complaining about seeing content instead of, as you said, scrolling past it or blocking people, and even more so by people talking like their opinion was the gospel. I hope this makes sense. I’m just really sick of the top/bottom discourse in general and how it bleeds into how people treat the members irl.
So I don’t think anyone overreacted, and I especially don’t think I did by posting my singular tweet that took me 20 seconds to write. I just think it’s strange that people were making such a big deal over something (again, not the initial post, but the response of people freaking out that came with it. Which might not have been something you say with the algorithm, but is something I definitely saw) and acting like they were being victimized for not seeing as much top minho or for liking bottom jisung when it’s the largely more popular preference lol. But if the other way around ever happens then …. all hell breaks loose.
But yes at the end of the day I can summarize my opinion with: whoooooo caressss. And I have every much as a right to complain about people complaining as they do to complain, which I’ve had several people come at me for doing so. I was also just stating my opinion and take on the whole thing, so I don’t see why that would be seen as overreacting or wrong, but it’s fine for others do so when it’s in regards to their personal preferences.
So, yeah. Like I truly don’t care about any of this at the core of it but I DO care when people are so aggressive with their top/bottom pref that they act like anyone else is wrong or bad. I hope this makes sense? I think its hard to explain when we were obviously seeing different things.
It’s literally so annoying when people do this. let people talk about what they wanna talk about. Some people don’t want to see bttm mimo and will complain about it. They aren’t complaining about the ppl writing or enjoying it, so what the fuck does it have to do with you? Let them complain ffs
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