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hiii i’m on here bc i’m usually priv but i really like this discussion about people here on nsfw talking about hj as if he’s borderline abusive and cold i wanna contribute :3 i think a lot of it comes from a misinterpretation of the members joking about how he yells at them and that he has a lot of anger and clips of him dodging physical contact like a disgruntled cat with what could be interpreted as an annoyed face but is really just a joke for everyone around. i see this more with domtophj people so forgive me if i’m wrong but all of the above also coupled with people’s misconception that doms are cold insensitive mean and abusive outside of sex also and how domtophj/subbtmsh fics/accs are weirdly heteronormative (seriously their fics sometimes reads like badly written wattpad fic from 2014) lead to this wide misconception of how hj is irl when he’s just a little silly caring guy with disgruntled cat tendencies. a lot of it probably comes from this weird tendency they have of overly feminising sh and the need to have a Masculine Alpha Male that often falls on hj as it’s his most popular pairing, it’s so toxic and uncomfortable to witness esp when they’re talking about real people. sorry for rambling i’m a little passionate about this topic :3
i always wonder if this perception comes from those jokes. from the way some people talk about it it gives me the impression that it relates to stage persona as well, which is interesting given that they all have the same type of persona i guess and yet hongjoong is the only one i see this happen with? ofc my poll is very limited as my tl is 80% seongjoong, so maybe in other circles there are other members to whom this happens
i also get the impression that a lot of people interpret him as cold solely because the way he shows affection is not the most conventional (like physical touch or being very open about his love verbally) and therefore it gets reduced to Not being there at all, which i find very sad
i have complicated thoughts surrounding the other things you mentioned.
at one point i had this long talk with someone who told me that people mischaracterize the members to fit what they like "just because" and that it's not their interpretation of the real person because that's not an aspect of rpf they're interested in. to me, it's very hard to see things through this point of view because in the end, even though we're using characters we made up, it's still supposed to be associated with this real person, so i don't get what aspect of it can be fun if you're gonna disregard literally every aspect of who they are. to me it's easier to believe that people have different interpretations, but i may be wrong
i don't know how old you are, but some of the "misreadings" that i think people do of members i believe may be lack of experience which leads to less nuance, which certainly gives some of the thoughts/works a "wattpad"-y feel. it happens, younger people need room for these explorations and i'm free to curate my online space so we don't cross paths, because i'm not interested in those as i'm not interested in any fiction made by throwing their personalities out the window to fulfill a certain view (this is based on what the person i had a conversation with before said). but, again, people are gonna have different views of their personalities because the analysis we make of them are based on our experiences. i talk a lot to a lot of people about my perspectives on the members and they share theirs too and it's never been a 1:1 match, even if we agree on a lot of things, there's gonna be some element that they see differently. and this all has got to be valid, i'm free to play with my dolls how i want as are others, but the problem for me lies in when this starts getting to some level of unkindness which is what i've been seeing happen to hongjoong
the heteronormativity is a big problem to me but i've been killed for that before so i've decided to not talk about it in public and simply curate the tl while reminding myself that everyone is out here to have fun and maybe work out some thought/feeling through fiction and hopefully feel good about themselves while doing it. i certainly portray all members in ways that would piss at least 1 person on the world wide web off if not multiple, so idk. like i really don't know fdjisfdiasjf. i've seen a lot of people say that a gay relationship portrayed in media could never be heteronormative, and i don't know what i think about that. as a queer person who's never quite "passed" i would say a lot of the things i see portrayed don't reflect any of my or my close friends' experiences with queerness, but who am i to pass judgment?
but either way, to me, the unkindness is something objective. if you show those tweets to a neutral person who doesn't know either of them, all the elements are there to understand those as negative interpretations. while the whole rest of the discussion can be subjective
“ But Hcngjccng is still in the early stages of accepting his newfound want for cock.” and mg’s caveman voice… this was a beautiful piece of writing thank you
PLEASE PLEASE i am so ready for whenever you drop that fic please i am so hungry 🙏
ok so.... this is gonna be really funny... u ready?...... it's this one https://archiveofourown.org/works/56790331
what did hwc do to jccng’s hole this man is now SO whipped and clingy it’s insane
envisioning! eg the RT with bound hands jccng. im new to the vision and trying to expand my worldview 🫶
so many possibilities 😞
secnghwc tying him up to the bedpost and pulling out so many toys to edge hcngjccng for a few hours. it's more of an exploration thing at first because they wanna see which things hongjoong reacts to the most (vibration, temperature play, some light pain play) and as hongjoong grows more desperate seonghwa slows down to take his time, using the toys hongjoong responded to the most and taking long breaks after hongjoong announces he's close to coming and he's so sensitive he's sent over the edge with barely two strokes while seonghwa is fucking him but seonghwa keeps going and fucking hongjoong into overstimulation until he's finished himself ✌️
hi ten, do you have any top domhw4 moments? for science
who are some of your favorite atz writers? 🖤
hii how are you doing ten? i miss you on the tl! are you up to something these days? i hope everything is alrightt
What would be Hwx's biggest flaw in a relationship?
i could think of two main things that make sense to me depending on the scenario: either insecure about the relationship to the point where it becomes a problem to his partner, or his quirks becoming too much.
on the first one it relates to how i think seonghwa at times keeps too much inside and this could prevent him from bringing up uncomfortable things and the second one is like... no one who leaves dirty clothes on the floor instead of the hamper would be suitable for a long term relationship with him lmao
Do you think 🐰 acts slightly more feminine than he is because he knows the majority of his fans like it?
hi! :3 What's your editing processes like for your works (choose what to add and what to remove)? another question would be, how do you get over writers block? anyway, love your works and way with words 🫶
my editing process usually consists of reading the chapter/work over and highlighting the parts that i can improve, and i basically use two different colors: one is for the thoughts that feel a little dry and i can expand on, and another is for what needs to be entirely reworded (because it was confusing, or because something changed on the work and that one thing doesn't need to happen anymore, etc), and i also add little notes of things i need to add or reconsider, and then i go through the work a second time to fix these things (i usually do this process 1-3 times depending on the work, it is psychotic and nobody needs to be doing it this much)
the tips i have for getting over writer's block are sort of unhelpful because they're the following: i either keep writing consistently even when all the output is bad until one day it disappears, or i stop writing for a few days. things that help me get a creative boost again and make me excited to go back to writing usually involve interacting with other medias, watching movies, playing games, etc. it's like you need to give your brain space to refresh and get new perspectives, but i prefer to not get too distant from writing
thank u so muchhh 🥺🥺
hi :) I'm very interested in your editing process of raf, and in what you said you could've done differently!! how are you approaching the story now that it's been out for quite a while and what are your thoughts on it?
when i was writing rent a friend there were a lot of times when i felt a bit stuck or had to give up on executing something a certain way because i felt i lacked skill, so now my main goal is to fix these things i was dissatisfied with from the get go. this work is super important to me so i wanted it to exist in the best version possible which is why i decided to edit
i'm gonna post later a little thread with some screenshots comparing!
i'm so interested in your process for writing rabbit hole. you mentioned in the ending that you weren't sure in the beginning whether sh would be the stalker or not. when did you decide that he wouldn't be? what other directions could you imagine the fic could have taken?
it was around chapter 5 which does seem extremely early given how long the fic was but at the time that was supposed to be the midpoint of it 😭
i struggled a lot around that chapter because i truly didn't know where to go with the fic. i find stalking to be hard to write because most places where the story can go are pretty predictable, and it wasn't interesting to me to write them. so like, if seonghwa was the stalker it would have to be either he kidnaps/kills hongjoong, they get into a situation where hongjoong kills him, or police gets involved an all of these felt unsatisfactory. then i brainstormed with a friend SO MUCH and we got to hongjoong finding seonghwa's pictures and threatening him, and that gave a pretty good leeway to turn the story around
and then when i decided that seonghwa wasn't the stalker i had to decide what to do with the actual stalker and the options were much the same. i enjoy the way it turned out, where police gets involved but it's not a definitive answer to the problem, at the same time that the story shifts to focus on other aspects of hongjoong's life and not this person who caused so much harm anymore
thank you for this question btw!!! i love having the opportunity to talk more about the writing process an ideas :3
What would the teezers major in if they went to uni?
if they weren't idols i think it would be: hcngjccng would have gone to music school to become a producer, i think his fling with fashion started later than when he was supposed to be choosing a major so idk, though i like this route better for fictional worlds
i always see seonghwa as having a more traditional job so MAYBE law, or maybe something related to media because he's always enjoyed creative fields it seems. he'd not be in stem i don't think
yunho would also go down a traditional role, maybe to stay in the family business but we don't know what that is so i'd say law or engineering
yeosang biochemistry or pharmacology i don't take criticism (just kidding i do but i think it works well for him). alternatively, psychology
san history or literature because i envision him as uni teacher or academic
mingi music production
wooyoung dance major
jongho maybe doctor?? idk... also something traditional
however idk if this is common knowledge 😭 they did go to college and are graduated and they all probably took something really boring like media or something else related to how to take care of massive amounts of money that they're garnering
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