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Planes, Motels & Snowballs : ch 2 in progress ᯓᡣ𐭩
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Hi again...
I'm might just be called again but I really wanted to send something again! I followed you on twitter and I finished reading chanlix fic for the third time, I left a comment it's really an amazing work!!! I'm in love with how well you wrote Felix's character and how you came up with such a well built plot. I'm excited to read your other works, thank you for sharing a lot of fics.
Since I saw your tweets I want to say good luck with your writing I'm sure it'll be amazing too.
Take care of yourself 💗💗
Tyty!! Reading my fic 3x is amazing, and I'm so happy to hear it! Extra thanks for the good luck too because I definitely need it lol
Hiiiiii it's me me again.
Thank you so much for replying!! I really love your story so much and your reply means a lot, I had to go and read it again because I didn't notice the pinching part and yeah Felix's pov.... I missed many things at first.
Also it's genius for you to not make that twist so obvious, like it really made the story so good and the ending so delicious. Felix thought what if Chan knows it's me but it was just thoughts and Felix was really an unreliable narrator, it gave the story a whole different feelings when you don't see the abuser as abuser even when Felix is aware at some point about it but choosing to ignore it.
The way chan almost killed him at the end, then rationalized and concluded that he loves him.... I don't know if it's true or he just accepted Felix because he's willing to be manipulated and abused by him.... The part where Felix asked Chan if he loves him because he's submissive but Chan never answered, I really wonder about it.
And omg!! I really didn't notice the sex addiction like the alcohol was obvious but wooow.
I'm really so invested in this SORRY but again thank you so much for this beautiful masterpiece, hope you're having a good day 💗
There's no need to thank me or apologize for the messages at all!! I love messages and comments so much, especially these long ones where I get to discuss a fic in detail. Like, seriously, you have no idea how happy I am to come on here and see I have a message. Getting these types of messages here literally makes my entire day!
Even while writing, I was so glad that I went with the strict Felix pov and made him an unreliable narrator. The story would be really bland and straightforward without it, but I also thought it was such a fun concept to try to make readers 'see' such a distorted perception. While there are things readers didn't pick up on (at least from the comments and stuff), there also were a lot of cases where readers reacted the way I expected, like being shocked or frustrated with Felix for not picking up on Chan's many red flags. Imo this fic is actually the most interesting I've written so far, and I think a large part of that is just seeing how readers react in the comments. It's almost like a social experiment in a way lol like 'what percentage of readers will pick up on the more subtle signs of abuse?' It's interesting because, as I said in my last answer, a lot of things that happen in the early stages of an abusive relationship really do go unnoticed or get brushed off. I really wanted Chan to be a realistic abuser, and I put a lot of research and time into trying to make that happen in this fic, so while I was a little disappointed with the lack of readers' reactions to those things at the time, it seems that I did a pretty good job with realism there lol
The question of whether or not Chan really loves Felix has come up in the comments a good bit. For me..... I think he does, but looking at the story objectively, I think it can be left up to debate, and it just comes down to how honest you think Chan is being. Factually, Chan is more reliable than Felix (in that when they have differing accounts of something, Chan's is always more accurate), but that doesn't mean he can't lie.
Sorry to give you another rabbit hole to fall through, but I was just looking through the fic a little and came across something that I forgot about but should've mentioned in the last answer with Felix's mental health issues. Felix is likely dissociative, and I say 'likely' instead of 'is' because it wasn't something I was very committed to making apparent. Dissociative disorders are often a result of prolonged trauma, which we know rings true to Felix. When Chan gets physical, Felix starts feeling 'spacey,' which alludes to a somewhat mild form of dissociation. There are several dissociative disorders, and I had no particular one in mind, but two possible symptoms of dissociative disorders are depersonalization and derealization. There are multiple incidents throughout the story of Felix noting things he does subconsciously/instinctively in a strangely passive way that could suggest depersonalization (for example, in the final chapter when Chan is face-fucking Felix, he tells Felix to not touch him and removes Felix's hands from his thighs; about his own hands, Felix thinks 'They probably placed themselves there defensively,' which is weird because he's speculating). Derealization explains the many issues of Felix seeing and remembering things incorrectly.
I hope you're having a good day too! ⊹ᡣ𐭩₊⋆
Hi I'm from before again.....
I'm already so I thought to leave my thoughts here feels better since I'm feeling a lot.
First of all and excuse my honesty but I really saw the tags and opened the fic for the sex I wanted to feel horny but I ended up crying for 3 hours. It really hurts.
Second, wow just wow. I was so sure chan is a psychopath just like jisung said??? Like that explains the hoodie and the whole exaggerating the stalking thing? He knew it was Felix all along but he just kept playing pretending to not know to manipulate Felix, from the beginning the fact that he was quick to text Felix made me suspicious but then the ending left me so confused? Chan is not a psycho psycho and he was hoping Felix isn't the stalker?????????
Also, FELIX. I have a lot to say about him and I fucking love him so much. I totally totally get him I can perfectly understand him because I would be his level of crazy if not for therapy lol. Having a fucking hopeless full of trauma life does a lot to you, like making creepy, fucking obsessed, submissive and breedable.
Lastly I want to thank you so much for this work. It's totally amazing and perfect, I genuinely have no words to explain how I enjoyed this. So thank you so so much and I hope you are doing well, wishing you all the best 💗
(This contains spoilers for my Chanlix fic 'I Saw This Really Cute Guy at the Grocery Store the Other Day')
Hello again! Honestly, you're very real for saying that you initially started the fic because of the smut tags lol. Extremely relatable.
As I was writing and posting the fic, a lot of people in the comments were also speculating that Chan was more aware than he let on, so you definitely aren't alone on that. In the planning stages, I did consider having a big twist of Chan secretly being a stalker himself, but I decided against it because it felt so obvious as a twist, you know? My way of subverting expectations to make the story more unique and interesting was to make Chan, the victim, be an abuser rather than someone to feel too sorry for. I didn't really intend to set up a false plot twist like that lol. The 'signs' of Chan knowing more were either intended to be abuser red flags that Felix fails to pick up on, or Felix misunderstanding/not comprehending things properly due to his semi-delusional state (like the fact that he actually trashed Chan's living room way worse than he remembers, for example). Most of Chan's weird behavior is justified under the light of simply being attempts for control over Felix, like seeing how far he can push his boundaries (the steak), or just 'smaller' acts of abuse (pinching Felix to force him to talk about his traumatic parents' deaths). Most abusive relationships tend to start with these smaller, somewhat justifiable acts that are often overlooked by the victim and others. Since the fic is from Felix's pov, I think his nonchalant attitude towards a lot of Chan's doings kinda made some aspects seem smaller or less wrong to readers. No one has ever mentioned the pinching, for example, but I actually intended that to be foreshadowing for Chan's escalating violence to come in the next chapter.
Ngl there is a little more than a bit of myself in Felix, but I'd rather not go into detail lol. Felix is pretty detached and cold to others in general, but when he's in love/obsessed with someone, he exhibits more of an anxious attachment style. All of his problems stem directly from his traumatic childhood and adolescence. Another thing that I think was glossed over by readers is that Felix seems to have addiction issues with both alcohol and sex. The hints toward alcoholism are tagged but subtle because his mind actually becomes so filled with Chan that he begins to neglect everything else, including his work, which he has a passion for. I think the sex addiction is more debatable, but even Felix admits to himself that it's probably excessive. There is also a mention of using spit for lube, and Felix grimaces because it reminds him of his teenage years - ofc this is up to interpretation, but it could allude to painful, possibly less-than-consensual encounters. Basically, Felix has loads of trauma that he doesn't even fully recognize, which in turn makes him more susceptible to being a victim of domestic abuse.
Sorry for going on and on, but I'm really glad you shared your thoughts with me!! Thank you, and I wish you the best too! 💙
Hi I'm seriously so so thankful for you!!! I'm literally reading the number one best fic in my life thanks to you and I'm so fucking in love! Thank you omfg omfg
This is so sweet. Thank you for letting me know how much you like my work!! -`♡´-
hiiiii, hope you’re doing fine<3 soo are we gonna have more works with top ji? 👀you did an amazing job with the mnsnglx, and you know top jsng is just wow, idk i just feel like sometimes jsngs pen1s need some hole and love you feel me😔 i wouldn't be opposed to some jlx yk, anyway ily thank u so much for all your work💞
Hi!! I write a lot of Minsung with Jisung as the bottom, and so I think I've kind of developed this habit of always thinking of him as a bottom? (I do this with Felix too lol). I do want to write more top and vers Jisung, and so that will definitely end up happening more in the future. As for Jilix, I actually meant to have a Kinktober fill that was only Jilix, but it just never came to fruition for whatever reason. I don't think I'll ever write strict top Jisung/strict bottom Minho, but strict top Jisung/strict bottom Felix is extremely likely to happen.
One of my other Kinktober fills, 'Lost and Found' has vers Jisung/vers Minho, so that might be something you'd be interested in if you haven't already read it. There is some BDSM in it, but nothing too extreme imo.... Also Jisung is an alien in it LMAO but trust me, his dick gets a lot of attention in that (also note: it seems dub/noncon initially, but there's a plot twist at the end, so no worries if you're not into that)
Thanks for your message! I hope you have a great day 💙
yongpussy………. yongpussy more……… yongpussy…. more pls ❤️🔥
LOL I will def be writing more boypussy in the future. There's sex in 99.999% of my works, and so sometimes it does get a little taxing because it feels like every sex scene is the same. I tried out bp as a change, and I liked it a lot! As for Felix specifically, I'm in love with bottom Felix, and so he'll probably be the number one person I write having a pussy lol
Wow your Works are amazing!! The way you write is incredible!!! And I bet your imagination is limitless! Idk how many times I read your Minsung ff....Bc I like them so much! I have question; have you ever talk about you? Bc it's fun to know about authors! Thanks for being on this app! Kisses!
Thank you so much!! (˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶) I don't really talk about myself much lol. I'm not opposed to it or anything, but I just don't really feel the need to, you know?
Some random fun facts about me:
- I just turned 21
- I'm a cis-woman
- I'm mixed race and the unique experience of that helped make up a huge part of my identity as a person
- I live in a small town in the rural south (USA)
- I'm a multi-stan for several kpop groups (bgs and ggs)
- I've been into kpop since 2016 (when I was 12)
- Over the course of my life, I've dabbled in several creative areas, such as poetry, drawing, painting, video editing, and photo editing
- I'm an ENFP and type 4 (enneagram)
- Despite being an extrovert, I'm pretty shy lol
If you would like to know other random tidbits about me or my thoughts on things, I recommend following me on twt (@sanadul_). I tend to lore drop every now and then lol
you fucking fantastic writer every single one of your fics makes me wish there was more T-T I read the mnsng alien fic and everyeverything about it was so hot
Omg thank you so much! :') It's great that you like so many of my fics! I really love hearing about people who enjoyed my fics enough to read several of them lol. 'Lost and Found' was really fun to write since the possibilities for how Minho could torture Jisung were practically endless. I had never written anything with clothespins or characters taking turns to fuck each other before, but I definitely will do both again in the future lol
Your Hynsvng fic for kinktober was soooo 🔥
Now I need a second part where Jsng take his revenge by deep thrust into Hyun 🫣
I'm guessing you're talking about 'Take Care of It!' I'm really glad you liked it! I don't know if you saw it or not, but I have another Hyunsung Kinktober fic called 'Help! I Became Too Sexy!' It's pretty different (read: sillier) from TCOT, but you may like it if you like Hyunsung!
I probably won't be doing a sequel, but I'm honestly kinda obsessed with dom HJ and sub JS lol. If I were to write a sequel, I'd probably do something more like Hyunjin manipulating and blackmailing Jisung (remember how he threatened to tell Minho and the others that JS forced him to watch?) into doing something more... and then, he'd prob film it to use as additional blackmail hehehe
Thanks for your message/submission! 🤍
as expected my deskmate was gagged, he loved it and said chanlix were joe and love from you coded
i haven’t stopped thinking about it all day, this was so good, i know i already said it but the sex scene was so so hot and i love how despite wanting to hurt lix chan folded and still made it pleasurable for him
Lol someone else said that too, but I’ve never even seen the show beyond the first 2 eps back when it first came out.
I’m so glad you liked it so much! The sex scene is definitely one of my favs that I’ve written. Honestly, I originally didn’t want to have Felix cum, but it’s already been established that he cums quickly, so I felt like I had to stick to that. I think Chan’s main intention toward making it pleasurable was just to mindfuck FL a little more. Felix didn’t like it at first, and then even once it started hurting less and he started liking it more, he still didn’t want to admit that to Chan. Based on their relationship and understanding of each other sexually, I think Chan already knew at the beginning that Felix would end up liking it by the end. So basically, here’s Felix pretending to not like it, so what does Chan want to do? Make him cum ofc! ✨
Felix also straight up asked to cum, which we know Chan has a thing for, and Felix often ignores because he likes being ‘punished’ for not asking. So, Felix asking to cum was basically the ultimate submission in that moment, which again Chan loves, therefore there’s no way in hell Chan wasn’t going to let him cum.
Not me putting WAY too much thought into a damn sex scene (though it is dubcon, and all the best dub and non cons are complicated lmao). Anyway, I’m glad you liked the sex scene! Because of its heavy content, not a lot of people want to just say it to me, so I really really appreciate that! Thank you for reading and sending hilarious messages! 💙💙💙
Hiii! Just wanted to come here to say i recently discovered your profile and all the works i've read so far are amazing, i love your writing 🩵 I'm really hyped to read the longer fics 🫶 (will come back to talk about them for sure)
Aw thank you~~~ I really appreciate that! 🩵
ah i totally forgot to ask during my comment, but do you have any comments or idea of what happened to jisung? like idk if he and felix will remain friends, if felix will cut him off for being unsupportive of chan, things like that? i only ask because he kind of faded out as felix became increasingly absorbed, so i wonder what could’ve happened in a theoretical future 😭🩷
Everything takes a backseat to Chan. Felix's mind is literally: Chan, Chan, Chan, Chan, work, Chan, Chan, Chan. Though, his work has also fallen aside in favor of Chan.
I like to think they can still be friends because they've been together for so many yrs, but realistically, I can see FL becoming like Chan's little housewife, who has no external interactions (besides maybe book club with Chan's mom) and does art on the side, and I think Felix would genuinely be content with that. I feel like if it came down to it, Jisung would pretend to be accepting of Chan in order to maintain his friendship with FL.
your story had me on the edge of my seat til the end, can’t wait to tell my deskmate about it tomorrow 😭 this was so fucked up but also so hot, im glad chan got back to his hot scary abusive controlling gaslighting girlboss self. i also love how despite everything chan still loves felix and can’t live without him either
i know you meant to leave the end open/ambiguous but my perception of the end is that they still stay together bc they still love each other but i also like to think that if they broke up chan wouldn’t cope well and start stalking FL and lose his shit if he saw him with another man given how possessive chan was
also i thought felix was gonna address chan being almost as obsessive with him because it felt like it was felix’ trial when chan was also being abusive and obsessive
Ah you're back lol! Honestly, as I was writing the sex scene, I kept flipping back and forth between 'omfg this is too much for most ppl' and 'why is this the hottest sex scene I've ever written' lmao
We all know how obsessive and strong Felix's love for Chan is, but I think Chan's feelings toward him are almost equal. Chan is just more calculated and externally stable.
The ending is technically ambiguous, but it is meant to lean more toward them staying together. It's ambiguous in that: is Chan going to continue to be abusive? Is Felix going to continue to 'stalk' Chan? Are they still going to move in together in 2 days? Now that they're more aware of each other's tendencies and inner feelings, will they continue to be unhealthy? Will they each try to improve and get help? Etc.
In my opinion, if Felix tried to leave Chan, I think he would pull a FL's dad, and someone would die. He's controlling, violent, aggressive, and in love with Felix to an unhealthy degree, so definitely (at least) FL would die. In the event Chan broke up with FL, I think FL would also die, so............ basically the only timeline FL lives is if they're together lmfao
Felix is kinda stupid in this lol. He ignores most red flags and only sees what he wants to see. He doesn't want to see Chan being a bad or unwell person, he wants to see Chan as perfect. So, it's 'thank god Channie isn't dumping me, I love him so much' instead of 'oh fuck I'm dating an angry, controlling, violent man,' you know? Chan is, like, infinitely more cognizant than Felix.
don’t answer if its too much of a spoiler, we know how lix ended up this way but how did chan? like the loss of his father must have been hard on him but other than that it looks like his mom was raising him well and was giving him love. not that growing up with a loving mom cancels trauma out but im just curious. bc it looks like fl is far from chan’s 1st “victim” (even though lix doesn’t see himself that way)
I'm gonna be real with you, I haven't thought about it at all lol. I usually do have some reasoning for these types of things, but I got nothing. Some people are just fucked up, and I guess Chan is one of them lol. No, but there's really no 'cannon' reason for it.
Chan probably has been emotionally abusive in previous relationships, but I definitely think that this is the worst one for him (I imagine all of Felix's previous relationships have been bad and unhealthy. I mean we know he's a serial cheater, so there's that if nothing else.)
love your writing, absolutely adoring your current fic. i was wondering if you ever see yourself writing minchan?
I actually did briefly consider Minchan for this one lol. I can definitely see myself writing fics with them as the main couple in the future, but it's not really on the table for now because I feel like I'm not familiar enough with their dynamic yet. I actually only became a stay in Dec/Jan lol
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