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ure literally my fav person here. thank you 😭🥹 i needed to hear that
oh gosh honey this truly means a lot to me. i was having a conversation with a friend yesterday that made realise that some of the things i don't prefer reading aren't as unheard of as i originally thought. and it made me think that these things should be said on the tl and not just in private conversations. just as a reminder that it's okay to like what you like and avoid what you want to avoid. i think a lot of us sometimes forget that fanfiction is supposed to be a comfort place; characters you already know and love, familiar tropes. there's absolutely nothing wrong with trying to expand your horizon, of course. but doing so out of pressure of missing out and wanting to fit in with the crowd isn't the best way to go about it imo. and i'm guilty of doing that sometimes so yeah, again, a reminder that we all need from time to time. thank you for the message honey<3
Hi hiiii! How are you chee? I'm curious what are some of your pet peeves while reading fics?
hello honey<3 buckle in because this is probably gonna be a long one lol.
well. honestly. i don't think i have a lot of pet peeves when it comes to the formatting of a fic. i've seen people who are irked by using all lowercase for example, or justifying or not justifying the text, or using '~' in dialogue. but i think i'm mostly fine with all of that. i have my preferences of course, but i don't think any of this makes me pause or stop reading a fic for example.
my pet peeves are mostly about the writing itself. and those are (as are all pet peeves) entirely personal and me saying i don't particularly enjoy them doesn't mean anyone who writes them is at fault of course (with a few exceptions lol) but you asked my opinion so here goes~
(keeping this about minsung fics because it's what i mostly read)
my biggest pet peeves is when someone writes minsung as tools rather than characters. it makes them seem very one dimensional and far from their real selves.
i think it's in part because i don't usually read a lot of pwps, but my pet peeve is when their personalities outside of the bedroom seems to be nothing but an extension of their sexual roles. and this is not about their roles in the bedroom at all. i've read and enjoyed all sorts of different dynamics for them. i just don't like it when it seems like they think with their dicks throughout the day lol. like when jisung is painted as a brainless incompetent constantly anxious baby who just wants to be fucked. or when minho is written as a sadist (rather than tsundere which some people seem to miss that it's about not being good at showing the immense amount of care and love you have and hiding it behind a nonchalant front). i'm also not the biggest fan of either of them being painted as (previously thought they were straight until they realised they wanted the other) or when they are written as if they do not love the other (equally or at all) because seriously...have you SEEN how down bad they both are? unreal levels honestly...
and yeah. also just any exaggeration or overly stereotypical characterization of a certain trait and making it their whole personality (loser/nerdy/cocky/pretty/anxious...)
it's not that i'm against any of these tropes per se (again, with exceptions) but it just irks me when it is made to be the one and only character trait, especially when the aim is a full fledged story and not just a ficlet or pwp. i wouldn't feel intrigued to read through a longer fic if the characters don't seem like people but rather a tool to get themselves or the other dicked down lol, that's my main thing i guess
(i did not mention AUs or tropes or specific tags that I outright avoid because this is a different thing.) and yeah this might've been not what you were expecting but i hope you enjoyed this longish answer<3
Hi, can u reconmmend some good au mnsung enemy to lovers 🥹 tq so much 🫶
this question just made me realise that i don't read too many enemies to lovers fic hmmm but here are some fics i've enjoyed:
~ entangled - kersenvla
~ summer rain - bingchillen
~ tangled in your bones (take my breath away) - minluvsung
hope you enjoy them<3
(this is a little long sorry so feel free to ignore if you don’t have the energy to read it)
i had the same feelings about comments in another fandom like it was all good comments but it was too much i wasn’t expecting so much so the expectations crushed me and i hated how people would say stuff implying that even if it’s bad they’ll love it cos it’s mine?
i struggled to write cos of it and in the end i put out a chapter that i know was literally not good at all the writing was stiff the pacing was awful the actual content was boring and didn’t further the plot it was literally objectively a chore to read but people still praised it so ridiculously highly that it killed my trust that any of it is genuine lol im not someone who’s ‘overly’ critical of my work, im not a brilliant writer but i consider my writing ‘amateur doing-it-for-fun’ level good if i have fun writing it and can enjoy reading it back myself
i actually took it so badly that in the end it made such a bad block that i stopped writing at all for a couple years. i saw ONE person saying (not to me, just a stranger to their friend on twt) that the chapter was bad and boring and felt so validated that i felt like i could finally breathe lmao
now i don’t let myself look at stats or comments at all and i feel loads better tbh. pretend im posting into the void. (i don’t actually turn my comments off because if i read something and want to comment or read other comments i get a little sad if they’re off but only keep them on cos im confident i can 100% resist looking)
i tried also telling my friends i’d prefer if their comments were not exaggerated hype and that they also say what they didn’t like about something but i felt like this seemed weird to them and made them uncomfortable so in the end i told them actually just please don’t even tell me if you read it! this way i don’t feel like 1 they’re reading it cos they feel like they have to 2 they’re only saying nice things because we’re friends and 3 if it’s not their taste or they never even get round to it then it can’t hurt my feelings lmao (which equally takes pressure off them to read and comment)
my ability to write freely has very dramatically improved like i’ve wrote a little over 40k the past couple months since then and it might not be perfect but i actually do not care plus it’s definitely better quality than when i was trying to force myself through it. it also makes me feel free to experiment with my writing and do stuff i otherwise wouldn’t have even tried
oh gosh, honey. this is... i don't think you realise how much i needed to read this. i'm just so thankful you decided to share your experience with me because it just resonated with me so much, and after a while of me battling with myself for feeling like i'm being overdramatic about this, it's nice to know someone understands.
it's not nice, however, to know that you went through this. gosh. it's a horrible mixture of a bad pressuring environment and very, very perfect rich soil in our brains i guess lmao. and it pains me to know that it reached a point for you where it stopped you for writing for so long! i hope that doing these steps now has been helping you enjoy it a little more now, and feel less pressure. i have good self control i think, but i'm not sure i would stick to not reading comments or checking stats. i'm still a little too anxious and require some reassurance from time to time. it's the same for me with not being a harsh critic of myself, but still, sometimes the good ol' fella (my brain) is my worst enemy lol.
i also relate so much about the thing with asking your friends not to tell you if they've read your stuff. i've driven myself up the wall many times just thinking about this, and it's the worst kind of pressure for me honestly. i appreciate it so much when someone says something kind to me about what i've written, but i hate the doubt that comes with it about its sincerity, and the guilt that follows about doubting your friends. and so on and so on...
again, i thank you so much for sending this. i really needed to hear this i think :') i've been feeling pretty bad mentally lately and i know it's a big reason why i've been struggling with writing more than usual. and i've considered making some changes to combat that (some of them very drastic lmao) and i just don't want to make such a decision while i'm at such a bad state. so i will just...let it marinate for a while. and come back to your words when i need to :') thank you so much for this darling. i hope you're enjoying the process or writing and feeling more freedom with it now<3
hi ! cheee ! hi ! quick question. how do i become your friend (do you need any atm?? cause you were busy with this experiment or whatnot and I don’t want to be a bother) . i feel like we could click if luck is on my side (mainly because i can see you relate to hjs just as much and in the same way that i do) but also because i think you’re sweet and smart and really cool. yea. also spiderhan takes like half of my personality haha ,,
Hey chee, just read “tell them what you saw in me” (as expected, a masterpiece) and was wondering if you were planning any sort of sequel or epilogue? Don’t get me wrong, it’s a beautiful fully completed story, but I would love to see the thing that u talked about in the end happening. Just their dynamic when it did, i feel like svng would still manage to be the one giving out assuring words and I would love to see it pan out
Sorry if this feels like me telling you what to do, i don’t intend it to be like that, just wondering if it’s something that could be in your future plans
hey honey<333 thank you so much for taking the time to read this baby🥹 I'm very happy you liked it<3
and sigh,,, I'm gonna be honest with youm I've thought about how that sort of scene would play out multiple times. because you're right, writing it with their specific dynamic would be so nice. full of love. one of my favourite things to write (in this au or not). dreamy sigh. but i feel like adding more ti this story would take away from it? Like, as you could probably tell lmao it's a camboy au with very little focus on actual camboy stuff. and writing a sequel feels to me a bit... out of tune with the pacing and atmosphere of what's already written in a way? I don't know if that makes sense. And don't apologise for mentioning this! I'm actually happy that reading this fic made you want more from that universe it's a great compliment! And honestly for every story i write there's a larger timeline in my mind of scenes that happen before and after what takes place in the fic itself lol. So who knows! It's unlikely but I'm still thinking about them and the chances of me revisiting them are definitely not zero.
Thank you again for this lovely message<3
helloooo :D i don’t reread fics a lot but i just noticed that i (probably) reread yours the most :] your writing style is lovely, and the work you put into your writing is really clear to me!!! biiiiig hug ♡
oh honey ;;; as someone who doesn't reread fics almost at all this is very very flattering to me<3 I'm always curious about how some stories (including mine) fare off after a second or third read and it's definitely a good testimony to a fic that it's enjoyable to read many times. This just made my night thank you so much for sending this lovely message hugging you back<333
Hi! Sending you a hug for when needed!
https://x.com/s44nti/status/1837523970926481574?t=j7uA9Bgvc-_VG2QWXNeYsA&s=19 I know we are thinking the same with this... 😏
hi chee, id love to have a little list compiling all the (mnsng or otherwise) manifestations that you did <3 i think it would be so fun to look at!!
(this is in response to https://x.com/yourficwriter/status/1818293497197420913 )
(casually after two months) hello cloud. i am,,, eternally sorry for the delay. i simply suck at being an online person. my apologies.
this was an interesting thing to revisit especially after the whole dorm change thing lmao. and. i don't want to jinx my newly discovered minsung psychic powers but,,, there's a lot of stuff. it's mostly silly things, but i will never shut up about them<3 like minho in osaka, or when jisung sang the song i named my japan fic after and answered a stay question about his favorite japanese food with the same food i based a whole scene off of.
other than that it's mostly instances of jisung using eerily similar expressions to things i've used in fics but i won't mention much of that here. only [this one time of him talking about minho](https://x.com/yourficwriter/status/1822928741510873114], also [jeongin talking about minho](https://x.com/yourficwriter/status/1826946815633375669]. and the slam dunk reference
honorable mention to this minho moment because i'm very proud of it. so yeah it's mostly silly stuff but i like feeling any sort of validation for the way i see them lol so. yeah. pardon my delusions my dearest cloud<3
I understand anon's stance on treating rpf as a whole but I think the main point of stating that one has nsfw content on their profile is to protect minors, whether you censor or not
yup that's the point here. I know that's the use of adding that sort of warning (for minors or just generally anyone who doesn't want to engage with such content) and that is absolutely right to do. the point anon made and I tried to discuss is not related to that or claiming that it shouldn't be done, of course.
hii, thank you for recommending liz for science stuff, I've been meaning to read their fics for a while now so I'll definitely be doing that soon! and yes, I meant mostly science nerdy but if you have fics with other nerdy areas to recommend, I'd be delighted!
yay! i hope you enjoy going through liz's works! and, i know i'm the one who suggested adding more, but i'm realizing it's...a lot harder to define what is considered nerdy if not science nerdy lol. so i will resort to defining it as the closest thing to being an otaku, which is generally to have passion/obsession over a certain area, regardless of what it is. so it could be many different things like:
- sports: like climbing up to you
- anime: like super effective or this beautiful ecstasy (this one's just horny but it mentions anime so)
- actual sci-fi: like break in case of emergency, humanoid, met(ai)morphosis
- comics (spiderhan hehe): think your love would be too much
- gaming: like queue up
these are just some examples and this just goes to show how big of an umbrella term a nerd is lol. but i hope that you find something that interests you between these fics and you enjoy reading!<3
I like that you have rpf in your twt profile rather than nsfw. it makes me sad that the divide here is sfw/nsfw rather than regular fan account/rpf. I want to be in the rpf side of twitter, those are my people.
I think what was mostly handled in a not ideal way is this lumping of sfw/nsfw when it comes to fan spaces. because i understand the need to censor some content, and that some fans are not understanding of shipping let alone rpf or nsfw content. but i feel like the line was drawn at not exactly the right place (of course not to mention that this line never truly existed and that anything posted in an online public place might still find its way to the "other side". but yeah. my issue was always this lumping of all shipping/rpf accounts into the nsfw when in fact...many of them weren't all about nsfw content. i just think it's better to let people curate their own space as they see fitting. and i hope you've been able to find your people and curate your space the way you feel most comfortable with!
Ello chee tis lab anon I just hope you’re well
CHEE! your canon fic is honestly one of the most beautiful things that I've read in a long time. I want to go full literary analysis on it, because it's a work of art and there's so much carefully considered intention and respect behind the entire work. I'll settle for sharing my favourite line which is, "Moments pass. Neither of them moves. Jisung's warmth trickles into Minho's chest. His morning star is as close as ever to reach. But Minho's gands are small and the sky is infinitely vast."
This is more devastatingly beautiful than lines in actual classic literature.
You encapsulate so much love and tenderness in your writing that reading it feels like an escape. I can recognise a Chee fic by the ambience, because it makes me feel like I exist in this sparkly, soft, champagne coloured haze for the duration of it. I could never thank you enough for sharing your work, and I hope that your mind will be a bit gentler towards you. Thank you <3
hey sweetheart<3 this message felt like a hug<3 after a while of strugging with doubt about writing, and especially this fic itself, it means the world to know it was nice to read. wah seriously thank you so much<3
writing loving and tender minsung was my goal with this fic, and i'm so happy you thought it somehow worked. if my legacy is this ambiance in fics, then i will be eternally happy :D seriously. thank you so much for taking the time and reading the fic, and also for sending this lovely message. you're so kind<3 thank you<3
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