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hii your guide for keeping track of fics is literally godsent thank you so much!!
it's me again. yeah, you totally get me!! jisung is a poet and minho is a soldier. (even though i don't like to label people, it's so them.)
hihiiii im joining the fun..,, i think jsvng wud also express his feelings in short busts— his words often coming out faster than he can form the thoughts, he stumbles and rambles trying to make sense of his thoughts as they bounce around the confines of his mind..,. his brain 2 mouth filter almost nonexistent.. at least around the ppl he knows and trusts.. i do think he can also be rlly quiet and reserved where it calls for, i dont think he’s necessarily quick to voice things as he feels them— he lets things build up, feelings fester, until there’s a hundred different lines of melodies all clashing and colliding around up in there…
for mnho i think he’s pretty much well reserved, but he isnt afraid to say what he thinks. i think he also lets things fester, but his overthinking is more uniform— he’s more organised with it, he’ll scrutinise and overanalyse his thoughts and straighten out every possible outcome before weighing his options and deciding on one., he’s a little stubborn too, he could be wrong but until proven otherwise he stans confidently w his truth knowing he thought it out to the best of his ability, as meticulously calculated as he’s able…
theyre both overthinkers and overanalysers 2 me.. but i think jsvng leads with his heart and emotions in mind whereas mnho sticks to objectivity ., not 2 say he doesnt think with emotion but i think he decides how he feels abt something after working out the logistics and Understanding things before letting himself feel.. at least he tries to, hes not immune 2 blurting out charged emotions when he finds it justified… but he stikes me as someone who keeps his guard up.., hes scared of letting his emotions call shotgun .. shrugs…
thats my take.., thats how i think when i write, or at least what i enjoy when i read!!
hi hi hi! you already know how much i love the way you write and see mnsvng. that thing about jsvng losing his mouth-to-brain filter is so so spot on to me — i see him as someone so wordy but not always umm eloquent? especially when feelings and emotions are involved. he’s just a very feeling-driven person, to me. he absolutely can be quiet and say things so gently, because there’s feelings in that, too. in whatever way he chooses (or doesn’t choose) to express his feelings and thoughts, he just sort of expresses that with his whole body, not just words. if he’s worn and tired of the inner battles that came with denying or working through his feelings, if he’s frustrated, sad, scared, or just so in love that it’s consuming him, you’ll see that, whether it’s through crying and rambling or through saying things gently and softly.
and mnho, yeah, it’s exactly as you said. even the chaos in his brain has a structure, and that’s why i think in most fics he keeps his feelings at bay. i’ll use fragments as an example; the very simple reasoning is that his feelings exist, they’re there, he’s acknowledged them and made his peace with them (sort of, kind of). he’s not thrown off his balance anymore when jsvng does something that takes his breath away, it doesn’t take him by surprise when his heart picks up whenever jsvng is near. but it’s jsvng acting in ways he can’t predict, them ending up in situations that fall outside of mnho’s mental guide of How To Deal With This that make him lose his footing. and so when his structure and balance and rationalizing is challenged by his will to follow jsvng anywhere, to do anything for him, no matter what — it’s then that he has to make a choice, and it’s not always one he can think of rationally.
ah. they’re so silly. i think they should kiss maybe.
sorry if my grammar is off huhu. i'm a bit late to the party, but. my take on how hnmng open up about their feelings is almost similar to yours. to me, jsvng is the type of person who can get an intrusive thought out of some nonsense. like a movie, weather, phrase or even a glass of water on the table? it settles in him with a clump of associations that don't sort out well. he locks the feeling inside, but like a gel balloon, it fills up, absorbing things from the outside world until it's in the air and becomes too much. and then the tipping point. the balloon bursts and everything falls out, falling to the ground in a split second before he notices. when mnho gets an intrusive thought, it doesn't come out of nowhere; this thought comes out of doubt, fear or anxiety that something must be going wrong. you know, like he has a red sign that goes with it, and the sign only lights up when it's triggered enough to pull this thought out of the dark closet. and the moment the number of red lamps around that sign can't get any more, mnho exhales, "okay, this one is really there, and i have to deal with it because it makes me too vulnerable." and then he expresses those feelings in five words, because more would only make it more confusing 🙂↕️
ah, i totally get what you mean! my take on your version is jsvng is such a poet, you know? he’s an artist through and through, a writer, and so he’s bound so find love in the smaller, more mundane things. which works wonders when it comes to writing but can be quite problematic when it comes to realizing that you have feelings for your best friend, right? it’s all these things piling up inside of him until he bursts, like you said. i do think that the bursting comes easier for him than it does for mnho — yes, it’s messy, and it feels quite chaotic, but jsvng is a very expressive person even when he doesn’t mean to be. he can cry or he can ramble or he can even raise his voice, and he finds his words, eventually, no matter how painfully awkward they are to say out loud.
mnho, to me, on the other hand, has such a grasp on his own life and the way of things that it’s the disruption of that order that tips him off balance. it’s as you said; once the doubt is planted, he’s too self aware to just ignore it and move on as if everything is normal, because he /knows/ that something is wrong. but knowing it doesn’t always mean he can do something about it, and so he does everything that he can to deal with it internally. surely, if he thinks it over enough times and rationalizes it as much as he possibly can, the problem is bound to disappear eventually, right? except jsvng never stops being there, and his feelings never stop growing, begging to be heard, to be acted upon, and this goes entirely against mnho’s nature, the way he likes to live his life always keeping one hand on the steering wheel. i Love (!!) that thing about expressing his feelings in exactly five words because yes! even if he eventually has to sit down and talk about what’s happening, because the consequences of not doing so weigh out the consequences of doing it, he’s still going to only give away what he absolutely has to — you know how singers need to learn breath control, which means not just to take no more and no less than the amount of air that you need, but also to know how to measure your exhales, the way you let it out, careful so as to not run out of breath mid-sentence or come out too strong when you don’t mean to, in an attempt to get all of the air out quickly? i don’t know if that makes sense, ignore my now-retired musical theatre student geeky self, but. yeah. yeah!!
I think Minho is very practical so he's very: identify the problem, find a solution, work to achieve it. He's good at introspection but when there's a problem or he feels down and can't really pinpoint the source of his worry or stress it throws him off and ends up adding to it.
mm yeah yeah! taking notes of everything you said. mnho is so self aware that it’s easy for him to look within himself to solve anything that comes up and so whenever he encounters something he can’t solve or even understand it messes with his balance… but he’s also not one to want to show to others when he’s feeling off-balance. he’s so. agh. need to study him
my fav thing about one of my current wips is that mnsng are lesbians that's it
hello!! in the past i always almost wrote jsng as the main character’s in my fics but recently all my new ideas have mnho has the main character/written from his pov.
i don’t know what prompted this but either way i’m having a lot of fun! i really like to write from his perspective and also to write jsng through his eyes.
anyway, i haven’t been following you for super long so i haven’t gotten around to reading any of your fics yet. which one do you suggest i start reading first? <3
hi! nice to meet you! what you’re describing about mnho and writing the world (and jsvng!) through his eyes is exactly why i he’s my favorite pov to write. i have so much fun with him and i hope you do too! when i first got into 5kz most of my wips were made to be written in jsvng’s pov, but now i rarely write from his pov anymore. </3 one wip i’m working on right now is jsvng pov And jsvng-centric though! so i’m excited about that.
and about my fics, it’s such an honor that you want to read them! lucky for you, i don’t have many (two and one third to be precise). i’d recommend reading “it only takes a taste” first, since it’s my most lighthearted fic, and /then/ “fragments of a boy in blue”, which is both a little more complex And my absolute pride and joy. you can also read the only public chapter of “vitamin, dopamine” and come yell at me here for putting it on hiatus.
i hope you like what you find! thank you so much for this ask. <3
Not even kisding my friend i have like 15 wips and i will be using ur excuse to send like 15 asks here to rant my writers block away if u dont mind
im so in love with the concept omfg little hnie walking into a room in a good and illuminating the whole thing he is so precious ... a tiny thing walking around with flowers on his skin ... him saying i hate u when he is being teased like he isn't a little oven sprouting little flowers here and there ... head in hands im gonna cry
everything in this concept is so so endearing and unique. the escalations of it all seem so interesting like i can see him as a frustrated teenager bc he just can't keep shit to himself .... the vines... and earthquakes.. so many thoughts toni .. a kiss to ur brain
could he be cured ..? omg funky witch apprentice mnh who works for a witch who makes svng's monthly potions to keep him at bay and he has no idea why in hell the shop is always a little warm and cloudy when he comes by but he is also terribly enamoured
the romantic aspect of it is so cute but i feel so bad at the same time .. having to rationalise ur pain b4 anything else .. hnie ill protect u ... ill survive the storms for u .. omg anyway pls do share more whenever i am ready to get on one knee
u get it! little hnnie giggling and smiling and filling a room with light. when you’re little your emotions are a lot more fleeting so i imagine there’d be a lot of cold and rain followed immediately by warmth and light (which causes rainbows!), ie: falling, scraping his knee, but getting one of the cool band-aids and having his mom kiss it better. my cutesie. i cry…
i imagine that even if curses and magic exist in this world, having a curse like this since birth can be very isolating, even moreso throughout high school, when /everything/ is an excuse to feel alienated. jisvng learns very young to keep to himself and hide from the world, but this also means that the few relationships he allows himself to have (his mom, a few friends) are as close and strong as can be.
i think there wouldn’t be a cure per se as this is a curse and not a disease, but i never thought of what it would take to really make the curse go away for good. i always imagined that mnho would be someone who would try to help jsvng find a way to “cure” himself (with magic! like you said!) because that’s what jsvng has wanted his whole life, to be normal. but through mnho, falling in love with him and being loved back so intensely and purely, jsvng learns that maybe he doesn’t need to “fix” himself at all, as this is a part of who he is.
thank u for the brainworms please please share anything else u might want (!!!) !!!
toni .... toni .. pls .. tell me more abt weather curse jsng .. toni plez . toni.. my knees ..
HAI. omg. don’t mind if i do!
so jisvng’s mother was cursed when she was pregnant with him and he was born with the weather curse. at its core it’s a little like hanahaki? the curse exists as a consequence or punishment for jisvng’s mother’s decisions in love, but instead of just manifesting when jisvng is in love and it is unrequited, it manifests… always. it’s like an extension to how his body feels and expresses different emotions.
the most basic ones are joy and sadness, which manifest as warmth and cold respectively. pure, unrestrained happiness presents as warmth all over the body and a faint glow that resembles the sun, whereas intense sadness or depression can feel like a freezing, numbing cold. ice can even spread over his skin if it’s /that/ bad.
the one i like the most is love. not only in the romantic sense but in every sense possible, love presents in the form of flowers growing and spreading across jisvng’s skin. each flower represents something different; some grow when he feels loved and appreciated, some when he feels beautiful, some when he’s the one loving and appreciated and wanting someone. the flowers usually don’t last longer than a few days, but they can grow back with any wave of intense love or affection.
of course, pretty and poetic as it all seems, having a weather curse is inconvenient most of the times. frustration and anger cause storms that can at best be bothersome and at worst put himself and others in danger. envy and jealousy make vines grow up his limbs, and they rot with the intensity of the feeling. jisvng doesn’t know how to control the curse completely, even after years of trying. the best he could find was to try and feel as little as possible when he’s in public—but this has consequences, of course. and there are still situations where he can’t help himself; moments where his anxiety is too strong and manifests as a small earthquake, moments where he fills a room with fog from embarrassment, moments where he stands in front of the person he loves most and can’t help a variety of flowers from blooming all over his skin, no matter how ashamed he may be of being seen like that.
so… yeah. those are the basics. i could talk about him literally Forever. i’m not sure where to go with this idea but it means the world to me so please share any thoughts / hcs / questions if u want!!
bro u got them @ lkprotect in ur qrt be careful 😭
oh managing to write as a student and while having a job isn’t an easy feat.. i mainly just consumed stuff bc i was just so tired to sit down and write even when i had ideas, and when i did it was like before classes at 6am or in transit or smth😭 but i applaud u for still wanting to create something in your limited free time. ahh the kudos issue (im pretty much struggling with that rn so i really get u. i wish i could offer help…)
thinking abt writing and sitting down and writing will be a bit less stressful if u developed the idea in ur brain and just wrote when u can (on weekends or short breaks for example) i hope u find a pattern that works for u so that u could get a rewind time from real life by writing a bit!!
i’ve found outlining doesn’t really work for me oftentimes. ofc with longer fics i feel the need to properly outline but it’s mostly me raw dogging it and coming up with stuff on the spot or while going on abt my day and adding it to the notes lol i get how outlining could be restrictive sometimes so yeah try things out when u can!! :)
it really is hard! i think with my job being remote + in tech the fact that i spend 40 hours a week looking at a screen feeling my brain melt out of my ears adds to it definitely. in my free time, the idea of staying inside with my laptop doesn’t feel too tempting. maybe i should try writing at a café or someplace nice… ah idk idk idk. anyway,
i agree with everything else you said, from the kudos thing to developing ideas in my mind and trying to find time to write them to the outlining thing! i think, in general terms, it’s so easy for something we do as a hobby for our own enjoyment to become a little tedious or heavy. for me, i’m a creative, i’m majoring in an art-related, creation-based field. not writing makes me feel weird because i know it’s what i want to do, i know i like to do it, so i feel like i should be able to. but! bills don’t pay themselves.
thank u again ^^ love love love to talk to other people about this stuff. makes me feel like i’m not going crazy hehe
hi toni, idk if it’s that u can’t write bc ur tired or ur tired bc u can’t put ur ideas in words. but if it’s the latter i suggest just writing down gibberish with no regard to punctuation or grammar or correct sentence structure or any of that. it’s like ur outlining but not really? ur just brainstorming in a doc or in notes, or even by hand. u could also observe by reading smth from someone who’s written a similar idea and see how they executed it, not saying u should copy them but yk just for a bit of inspiration if it’s a common troupe or tag or smth. also u could brainstorm with a friend about it, oftentimes talking abt our writing with someone makes us come up with new ideas to fill in the gaps, in case ur stuck somewhere. also this usually happens bc u have high expectations so try to lower them AND DONT READ BACK AS U WRITE just dump everything down and go back to read a day later or smth. hope this helps!!
hi hi hi! thank u so much for taking the time to send this, it really means a lot. ^^
i would say it’s a mix of not writing because i’m tired (i’m a part time uni student, i also work full time in front of my laptop and it is killing my brain little by little), and writing itself feels more tiring because i haven’t done it in a way that felt fulfilling (ie, how i feel after writing it, kudos or not, feels proportional to the effort and time spent doing it). because i’m tired i don’t write, and the longer i think about writing and how badly i miss it without actually doing it, the more dreadful and frustrating the idea of sitting down and trying to write becomes.
but your point about just writing without a care for grammar and punctuation and structure is really good! i do tend to get carried away by outlining to the point i find it hard to go back and Rewrite Things Properly, but i think i’ll keep trying to find some middle ground where i’m writing more than just planning what to write but in a carefree enough way that i’m not killing myself over every little sentence. i hope that’ll make me feel better and make things seem easier in general.
sorry for the mini essay. thanks again for ur message ^^
i wanted to drop in and say your thread was incredibly well written and imo you gave so much more grace then that author deserved (`ー´). the usage of the 🥺 emoji in a serious conversation actually made me nauseous. much lov & support!!!
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