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what’s the ss of the sns u posted?
that's my account on bluesky! it's been around for a while but afaik it's still kind of in development- but there's lots of functionality already that i've been kind of missing on twt so it's pretty nice! the atmosphere also feels pretty different so far; it's a bit smaller still, so it's a lot easier to just stick to the people you follow and tune out everything else, and there seem to be way less bots so far too. (and no ads, either!)
recently a lot of people moved there bc twt was banned in brazil- not only does that mean a huge portion of people can no longer access twt now, but it also has implications about how little current twt management cares about user experience in general (which is something we've already known for a long time but... something about banning an entire country bc you refuse to abide by their very simple law is a pretty good way to measure how well users will be treated on this app).
i made an account there bc i wanted to test the waters and also have a backup in case twt does end up exploding completely one day, but for now i'm not leaving twt altogether! i still enjoy hanging out with everyone here and will post as usual, but i'll also be making the occasional art post on bluesky :)
hiiii bee, i was wondering if it’s okay to use your art as a pfp (with credit)?
hi hi ❤️ while i’m very flattered, i’d prefer it if people didn’t! unless i made the art for them specifically, as a gift or a c0mmission :) right now i just still feel pretty personally attached to a lot of my art and it would feel weird to me when art that i made just for me gets used as a pfp/header by someone it wasn’t intended for in particular, even if they’re super kind about it and credit etc :) sorry!
maybe i could make a sheet with some cute adoptable pfp doodles someday tho, as a thank-you for my followers ❤️
Girls who draw(specially mnsvng) are hot 😎😎
https://x.com/straybees/status/1828134216762302469?s=19
Bro tf? Changbn's waist is so fucking pretty and he looked so delicious in that skin tight shirt .
Mnbn's thick waist>>>>>
I hope people leave their waist and jsvngs skin colour tf alone ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
yeah it's pretty sad! :( the thing is they didn't even change all that much, chngbn does have a gorgeously distinct waist all on his own, especially in a compression shirt like that. from seeing where the background is warped i feel like they mostly wanted the exaggerate the curve a little, and diminish the tiniest bit of muffin top on one side (which is A SHAME. I LOVE THOSE LITTLE SPILLOVER BITS SO MUCH). but that still upsets me greatly!
the fact that someone would see one of their pictures and go "you know what would make it even better. if i edited this person's body a bit" WEIRDS ME OUT. that's a conscious choice they are making!! they are seeing a person as they are and deciding they are not good enough like that. it has nothing to do with making the picture prettier or more striking, they're just too caught up in common beauty standards. and the way they're never transparent about this stuff is super harmful too :/
bee what’s it like having eyes that can see into the fourth dimension and therefore bearing the burden of being the only person who can see when fansite pics have been edited
omg beth.... you flatter me unjustly bc i have (thankfully) seen other people comment on this too... but sometimes it does feel a lil bizarre to scroll through a timeline of people praising a picture and then i take one look at the actual picture and it's mnho with a dorito chip triangle chin and eyes so big he's almost nearing bug territory and i'm like. MAN!!!!!!! what are we doing here 😭
in all fairness i know not everyone spots the edits very easily and some edits are way more subtle than others... i don't even mind all edits! i get wanting to edit the colors a little to make the picture more cohesive and vibrant, and i even get wanting to smooth out certain areas of skin a little to get more striking contrasts in their features. i just don't think it should be an Automatic thing that just happens every time, and i don't think it should go as far as making their skin not look like their skin anymore!!! and obviously i don't see how it would EVER be necessary to edit their actual features or body shape. especially since i'm very weirdly attached to certain parts of their features that get edited out a lot (the slight softness in mnhos jawline and also the little pouches next to his mouth corners... every time someone takes those away from me i lose years of my life!!!)
i think the reason i usually spot edits is mainly that i just. stare at their faces a whole lot. even for the members that i don't draw regularly, i'll often study their features and think about how i would approach drawing them, what makes them Them, so to say. when i watch content i look like a maniac bc i will sometimes rapidly pause videos 200 times until one of them is shown in a particular angle that looks interesting to me and then i will capture them with a screenshot like a rare pokemon and put them in my little reference folder... it's so serious for me skjdfhjdsf i've just always been fascinated by faces so this is genuinely a thing i enjoy doing for fun!!
besides that, i also have been using photoshop since i was like. 12. and i've always been kinda vigilant about how to spot edited pictures bc that, too, is a special interest of mine!! i won't claim i can spot everything but it does make it easier for me to know what to look for. when people ask me if a picture is edited i always feel such a rush in trying to puzzle out what doesn't look right and what could just be awkward lighting or angles... it's so fun!! i just need to not think about the implications of them being edited so heavily in the first place bc then it instantly becomes. Less Fun. oh well :')
anyway that was a whole lot of explanation for a message i'm not even sure required a serious answer but i just like talking about this stuff <3
i feel like i will cave in and draw nanasvng and hachi!mnho kissing soon and teebeeh i need some words of encouragement from my favourit st4ytist 😪 i love your art sm
omg YESSSSSSS please go for it that would be so nice!! i honestly dont even know that much about nana apart from seeing aesthetic posts about it back when i was on tumblr (and now on the timeline) but i bet they'd look so lovely like that 🥹 jsng already looked SO good in that stage outfit! mnsng kissing art.... save me mnsng kissing art... good luck!!! you've got this!! 💪
weren't u writting a fic? gen/
yes!! well. to be exact i was/am writing Multiple fics actually, there's quite a few wips of thousands of words just sitting pretty in my gdocs! i just feel a lot less confident in my writing than in my drawing and so it very much comes in waves to me... currently i feel a lot of anxiety about writing bc it's not turning out the way i'd like it to, and my perfectionism is making it hard to push through and just finish it. i'm also not feeling too great in general lately and that makes it even more difficult to do scary things when i can also hide in the safety of my comfort art :')
i really do want to finish the piercer mnho fic though (bc its like almost 18k and i mostly need to finish writing the smut at this point; it would feel like a huge waste not to finish it)! and honestly i want to finish most of my other wips too, i've had plenty of time to think about them and share brainworms about them with my friends, so i do feel quite attached to some of them!! honestly if anyone has any like. tips for how to just Start Writing again and also not feel too insecure about not doing everything perfectly i'd love to hear them sdjfkdsh but yeah. i'm really sorry for teasing about things i'm writing so often and then not following through! i know i don't technically owe anyone my writing but. i do feel bad nonetheless, bc i'd really like to be able to just follow through more consistently :')
hi bee !!!! do u have a favorite bit to do while u r rendering ? and also I hope u r well !!! : D
hi g!!!💕 my fav bits to render are always the eyes, nose and lips… i love features that i can bring a lot of life and detail to with high contrast and interesting color variations, and these places are the best for it!! especially the eyes, i always have most fun with those. adding little sparkles to the eyes and tearducts, some shine to the eyelids etc.. i wish the entire drawing process gave me that amount of dopamine dhskdnd
recently i’ve been trying to enjoy stuff like hair and clothes more too, by adding more intentional patterns and textures. it’s working pretty okay!! but i think i will always favor rendering “smaller” detailed parts over big planes of color with little contrast.
also thank you bby!! i’m not doing the greatest but i am doing my best to feel better again 💕 i hope u are well too!!
What are are some mnho fancams/videos/clips/moments that you think jsvng gets off to? And vice versa.
i actually find this a pretty difficult question bc there’s just SO many good fancams out there, but also i’d imagine that if they wanted to get off to each other they’d prefer the real thing? or at least videos that are not watched by thousands of fans as well… i feel like with how private they are about certain personal things, they’d prefer watching stuff that’s on their camera rolls only basically :3 feels more special…
but either way, for hot mnho fancams i’d check out this thread by lemo for some moments where he was really feeling himself: https://x.com/lemonade_winkuu/status/1822055376839221257?s=46&t=9DwsloNSsOg1Z3PMXq8PIg
and for jsng my mind just immediately wanders to that one silent cry performance… sighs wistfully
have you ever posted a timelapse of ur drawings/ would u consider?? i’m trying to get into procreate and am so curious about ur process !!
you are responding with such grace and kindness and I respect you for that so much but I god the way people will go out of their way to blame literally anyone else for their fandom experiences is wild to me. the concept that you have any sort of obligation to post a certain amount of dick and balls in order to keep the sfws away lest they become corrupted is just. insane. totally insane
you're sweet!! it's wild to me too, but i have seen discourse like this going on for a long time already so i wasn't toooo surprised by the message... i'm glad you see my answers as graceful and kind but i want you to know i really only answer rude/weird messages when i feel like i have something important to add, so the act of answering in itself then becomes something i do more for me than for these anons :) i have ignored and deleted plenty of rude messages in the past when i felt like there would be nothing of value in sharing them with the world, no matter what i'd say! but in this case i simply felt passionate about this topic and wanted to state my thoughts in a way that would hopefully be clear and understandable for as many people as possible, in the hopes that they'd then feel free to act in a way they see fit.
hello, read ur ans about sfw visibility. so l am kind of a newbie on nsfw side nd twt in general so can u explain to me the de facto rules about nsfw,sfw nd censoring while interacting nd retweeting,etc
well anon i might honestly not be the best person to ask this as you have obviously also been able to see how some other people would go about this a lot more strictly, but i’ll give it a go! 💕
in general there’s a few different aspects to “following nsfw guidelines”.
firstly, it’s generally appreciated when you are easily identifiable as nsfw. having an 18+ emoji in your name or bio can help a lot, or simply adding “nsfw” in your bio is fine too. this way people will know instantly what kind of content you post/are okay with seeing, which is helpful both for other people on nsfw AND people who don’t want to engage with this content! it also shows minors they’re not welcome in your space. another helpful thing is adding your own age in your bio; a lot of people check if their followers have their age visible so that they can block minors. if you don’t have an age visible you are likely to be yeeted out by quite a few people!
next there is censoring. censoring means simply not using the full names of members or relevant important companies/events/albums etc, so that when people search for those words on twitter, they won’t find your post talking in detail about how you want chngbin to raw you (this is an example of censoring btw; i usually simply take out a vowel or two! other people go a bit further by replacing vowels with numbers or similar-looking letters, as long as it’s still decipherable basically). it does not prevent your posts from showing up on other people’s timelines completely, but at least you can feel assured you won’t show up in the search results. personally i don’t censor every word that has to do with skiz ever bc well… some words are just words! for example if i mention the song cheese somewhere i'd feel less stressed about censoring bc i think ppl are not likely to search for that word in order to see skiz related content, but also it’s literally just a noun lots of other people use too, so i doubt it’s really necessary to censor. but of course you’re free to do it, just to be safe!
finally there is the most vague category of them all, which is... trying to work the algorithm?? twt algorithm is a complicated concept that no one knows exactly everything about so a lot of this is simply guessing and estimating; this is also why i see the most divided opinions on this topic in particular. the thing is, twt will decide for you what you might like to see on your fyp. it does this by. well! great question actually. we don’t know exactly. but in theory it kinda looks at what type of content or person you interact with, and what patterns you and this person have in common, and what other people you follow interact with, and based on that it will push posts you might find interesting underneath your nose in the hopes of you sticking around on this godforsaken app for a little longer. a lot of people feel like a way to influence the algorithm is to make sure you simply don’t interact with accounts that aren’t nsfw at all, so that twt will never feel like it needs to show you sfw people, or show sfw people your posts. however, none of this is 100% foolproof! it is impossible to keep track of every single interaction in a public space with so many people, and we both “sides” of this community are still active during the same events, engaging with content in a way that i'm sure the algorithm will find similar even if we don’t strictly interact. also the algorithm does not read or care about your bio so. it won’t try to keep both “sides” separate!
i personally have no issues simply not retweeting stuff from sfw accounts and i’ll usually just go ham on my priv instead to try and be safe (which btw… i’m pretty sure this app can also more or less detect when you have multiple accounts/tweet from the same location a lot with different accounts, bc i get stuff from my nsfw feed on my priv fyp all the time!! so even if you keep separate accounts i kinda wonder if that even “fixes” it altogether). but i know quite a few people don’t really see this as a thing that matters or believe in the impact of it, and will interact pretty freely with “sfw” posts (while still probably trying to avoid accounts that actively post about how everyone objectifying the members should die or whatever bc that would be a bit too bold maybe). which i think is also fair! it’s up to you how you do this, just be aware that some people do take this very seriously and will not want to interact with you unless you follow the guidelines very strictly.
another thing you can do is try to keep track of who follows or interacts with you and block them if you feel like they’re not part of nsfw. personally i don’t do this bc it’s a lot of work when you have a lot of followers, and also i feel like if they like my content it’s on Them to notice the 18+ in my name and NSFW in my bio. i do block minors or people i feel uncomfortable with for other reasons when i see them, and i think this is a thing a lot of people in this nsfw space tend to do!
so in conclusion, the basic guidelines are: mark your account as 18+/nsfw, mention your age somewhere, censor names of the members/other relevant unique words ppl might search for, limit your interactions to only other nsfw accounts, check and regulate your own followers. i call them guidelines, not rules, because there is no monarch here and you can do with your account what you want; it just means some people will not want to interact with you if you don’t do everything! but that’s not always a bad thing anyway :)
hello bee! just here to say that other commenter on here is actually bonkers crazy!
Making nsfw art/content and engaging with it are two very different things, with two very different energy levels. pls don’t feel any pressure to push yourself into creating the content again if u aren’t ready, it can definitely be a lot! i think it takes simply one quick skim past ur acc to realize it is very much an acc that at the least is interacting with nsfw, which would make your acc nsfw in itself.
thank you so much for your kind message!! i was a bit surprised at that other message but i don't feel too bad about it; i feel like most people i hang out with here feel the same way as i do anyway (hence the hanging out with me...) and i'm honestly almost grateful for the opportunity to talk about this topic and make clear where i stand in all this! hopefully it clears up questions other people might have and causes them to decide for themselves if they wanna stick around.
anyway, i'm really touched by you acknowledging the different energy/comfort levels it can take to engage with explicit content versus making it yourself! that's exactly it for me :) i've been having fun sketching nsfw stuff again and sharing it with some friends but it might be a while before i post any of it on twt! we'll see how things go ☺️
I see where the anon is coming from when it comes to arts. Yeah you talk about dicks and balls but the content you share isn't explicit. I believe what the anon meant to say (but clearly couldn’t) is that the issue is by posting only SFW content in an NSFW space can unintentionally attract people who are looking for SFW content and this can cause confusion or unwanted attention for both the artist and the other NSFW creators in the space, this is what we fight against for years.
Artists like Sasha, Meiylina etc, have separate accounts to share their SFW art because of that, out of respect to other people in the nsfw side, to keep us safe from witchhunts, minors, etc. I think this is the point that you might have missed. It's important to be mindful of the type of content shared and where it's being shared in order to keep a respectful and safe environment for everyone on nsfw twt
I didn't mean to come across as rude or anything, I'm just sharing my perspective because I'm sure there are others who feel the same way but might be afraid to speak up, just like a was for a while now.
hi! i do appreciate that you approached me calmly but i’m afraid i still don’t agree with your message. you are of course entitled to your own opinion and i’m glad you wanted to share your view on this, but i’d like to use this opportunity to further explain why i don’t feel the same, in case anyone else is curious too. this is very long btw, sorry, i just wanted to make sure i wasn’t missing anything.
just like the other anon, i see you mention that i “only post sfw content”, because i don’t post explicit things. while this isn’t even true, there also seems to be a big difference in how we interpret “nsfw”. to me, being a nsfw account does not have to mean posting explicit content; it is more dependent on context. i’d like to reiterate that i am a clearly labeled nsfw account, i talk openly about shipping/sexual fantasies, i retweet very thirsty posts from other nsfw labeled accounts. i don’t post or retweet super explicit things very often, but have never shied away from it completely. but i also don’t think posting explicit things should be a requisite for earning place in this community! i think you’ll find that a lot of pretty big accounts here don’t actually post explicit things at all, and plenty of artists don’t or barely make explicit art, either. imo it’s silly to expect people to post an assigned quota of uncovered genitalia in order to be fully considered a “nsfw account”.
to me, having a dedicated nsfw skiz account simply means you want a space to be able to talk about the members in a sexual/shippy context, without judgment (or like. with as little judgment as possible… we’re all still not very great at not judging each other even within this community tbh). it does not mean you have to do it all the time! like, i’d hope you have some other things to say as well, sometimes :’) but it just means you want to feel safe in doing so when the mood strikes, because you’re surrounded by like-minded people, presumably over 18, who are unlikely to think badly of you because of it. or maybe it even just means you think people here are more chill and simply wanna hang out with us. that’s perfectly fine and valid too, imo!
this is why i try do to curate my space in a way i personally find comfortable by clearly labeling my account and bio, limiting my own interactions to only other nsfw accounts, and censoring important names. i will never assume my account is completely invisible to sfw people (because i am a public account) but this way i am at least doing my part in trying to not actively pop up on random sfw pages- which, i have to say, is still a thing i can’t control atp! that’s simply how the algorithm works, especially when you have more followers and interactions in general. either way, this way i know the people following me are either okay with me posting what i post, don’t care enough to make a fuss, or get unpleasantly surprised and unfollow again (but that’s on them for not checking!).
anyway, i feel like what you really might be trying to say is that my portraits tend to do pretty well and might attract people from sfw to my account and therefore “our side”. first of all, i think that’s once again on them, bc i feel like i make it VERY easy to see that i am an 18+/NSFW account. but also, i’m sorry to tell you this: i have been attracting people from sfw to my account with my nsfw drawings too!! sorry to talk numbers but once you’re a “bigger” account and your drawings get a lot of attention it just.. really barely even matters anymore. my drawings with jsng literally getting pounded in the ass all have close to or well over 100k views.. i can assure you those are not just from nsfw accounts. the divide between sfw and nsfw is not as strict as you might think. lots of my likes, retweets and even comments on nsfw posts come from accounts that don’t normally post explicit stuff themselves! apparently they like that shit too!!
i know the nsfw community (and this fandom in general) used to be a lot smaller, and it was easier and made more sense to keep things pretty tightly separate back then. but with how fast we’re growing and with how the twitter algorithm works now, i simply don’t think it’s realistic to see this as a safe, completely separate bubble. i also think a lot of the people in this fandom barely even care or are aware of the strict divide in the first place, especially newer ones! i’ve been seeing more and more people posting shipping content/sexual fantasies without labeling themselves nsfw or censoring, and i’ve been seeing more people with “sfw but i interact with nsfw” in their bio too. all in all i think it’s no use to try to cling onto the idea of such a strict divide between communities when in reality.. there isn’t! there's just some people out there that really don't fuck with nsfw/shipping stuff, and i think the precautions we are taking by censoring posts (especially when they have an objectifying nature), visibly labeling ourselves as nsfw/rps accounts, and not interacting directly with these people are the best options we have in warding them off. and imo it’s mostly working pretty well!
even so, if nasty people really want to find you, they can and will, no matter how much you censor or check your interactions. what you CAN do to further protect yourself is go private and thoroughly check everyone before you approve them as a follower. that’s it. that’s really the only way to make completely sure that doesn’t happen when you’re in an online space (and even then… i’d like to remind you this is the internet and people lie! i have experienced multiple counts of people lying about their age in this community and i’m sure there’s plenty more who are simply better at hiding). if you don’t want to go private, you can be more eager with the block button. it’s there for a reason! i really encourage you to use it, please make your space as safe and comfortable as possible by blocking people you feel are a hazard to your experience. it really is that simple!!
this answer is already very long (i'm chronically wordy, sorry) but i do want to add a bit more about why i’m only in the nsfw community and haven’t made a sfw account to post my non-explicit art. the reason is quite simple: i like being here. it’s nice to be with other people who are (hopefully) of age, people who don’t care if i talk about how i sometimes want to rip mnhos nipples off with my bare teeth, people who i’ve been talking to for over a year!! if i were to only post my art on sfw i would lose the opportunity to interact with the community i have grown so attached to and feel part of, and isolate myself to a space with lots of strangers, minors, solo stans, people who take stuff way too far, etc. i don’t really see the appeal of that! if i do make a sfw account (and i have been thinking about it!) it would be so that i have a place for my art that i can show more easily to people irl, and so that i can partake in sfw art events, bc those seem super fun. but i’d still want to post my art on my nsfw account too because it is My account, and i want to share my creations with the people i have gotten to know over here :)
in the end my conclusion is still the same: i encourage you to curate your space as you see fit. i feel like i make it pretty clear what i do with my account, and if you think the way i do things is harmful or unpleasant, you can solve that instantly by blocking me and cutting the tie. i’d like to think i’m a pretty reasonable person and i would never shit on someone for distancing themselves from me because i make them feel at risk! i genuinely would like everyone to have a nice time on here. i just also have my own boundaries, so at some point it does become your own responsibility to make decisions and curate your space!
I've been seeing your page a lot on the SFW side, and I think it's because you only post sfw stuff. People might think it's okay to share it, but it's not. Also, you don't seem to clean up your followers, so we're getting a TON of sfw people on our side since you showed up.
ok so normally i don’t reply to rude anons but your message baffled me in so many ways that i felt like writing one anyway! congratulations!
let’s break it down into a few parts since literally no sentence of your message makes sense to me. first, you say you often see me on the sfw side because i only post sfw stuff. i’d like to remind you that literally any post that gets a lot of attention can make it to the sfw side, because we are simply not a completely separated bubble. no amount of precautions can completely prevent other people from seeing a post on the internet- unless you go private. i’d also like to remind you that i don’t post “only sfw stuff”. in fact, i don’t post sfw stuff at all! because i am a nsfw account, which i have clearly stated in my name and bio. i’d like to think this means my posts are therefore automatically also only nsfw. besides, i only retweet posts from and talk to other nsfw accounts, i censor, i openly talk about dick and balls regularly, and my older explicit art still makes the rounds quite a lot. just because i don’t post new art of the members fucking each other at the moment (which was a personal choice- and one i have recently been carefully reconsidering by trying some nsfw sketches again!) doesn’t mean my posts are sfw.
then you say “people might think it’s okay to share it but it’s not”. which is! interesting! because i don’t think that’s your call to make? i’m personally perfectly fine with anyone retweeting my art; i am a public account on an app and i post art with the full knowledge that anyone will be able to see it. of course, if you don’t like that, you are very free to unfollow or even block me! in general, if anyone thinks me interacting with them/their posts might expose them to harmful people, i’d totally encourage them to just block me and i’d have no hard feelings. i understand that i have quite a few followers now and me retweeting someone’s post might make them feel a bit vulnerable so i’m serious; feel free to block me or ask me to mute you if you’d like me to steer clear of your account! or just shoot me a message if you want me to undo a retweet!
then you mention i don’t clean up my followers. and i will admit that i don’t! i did that for about the first 1500 of them and then i stopped bc i realized i did not want to spend that much time every week going through people’s profiles when i know anyone can so easily lie on the internet anyway. sure, when i happen to see a minor or someone from edtwt follow me, i’ll yeet them bc they make me uncomfortable. but as this is, once again, a public account on a public app, i have simply accepted the fact that anyone with internet and a phone can look at my shit if they want to anyway, so i don’t really feel like making that effort anymore! i make it perfectly clear in my bio what i do on my account and who isn’t welcome, and i have decided to end my responsibility there. once again, if that makes you uncomfortable i would totally understand if you’d rather block me.
finally, i have to say the last part of your message genuinely threw me for a loop. there has been a ton of sfw on this side “since i showed up”? thats so dramatic??? like… i have been posting here for well over a year… i’m almost honored that you think i have had the power to singlehandedly change the entire algorithm ever since i was a fetus account by (checks notes) following generally accepted nsfw community guidelines but no longer posting dick and ball art every week to Fend Off stray sfw. like sorry i don’t even know what to say to that hdjddjff
anyway, long story short. i am still a nsfw account!! i interact with nsfw accounts. i censor. if you are uncomfortable with me not keeping up with every single follower and interaction i get, feel very very free to distance yourself from me! i really mean that, because even though i personally have made my peace with being seen on the internet, i know lots of people are not comfortable with that idea and i encourage you to do whatever makes you feel more safe in this space. but at least don’t come to my inbox to rudely tell me what to do. thank you!
(will be deleting/blocking other rude anons with similar messages in the future btw, but if you wanna genuinely and politely talk more about this topic, feel free to let me know if i’m being unreasonable/missing something!)
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