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Hello hello! A very long time ago (Doujima 2023???) I bought your Octopath II poster and two stickers… They were extremely cute and I was so happy to find someone in Singapore selling Octopath merch! I have many regrets about not being able to get into the second game before I went Tokyo and saw the Octopath cafe… (only ended up buying merch for the first game) so I was so happy to find some at your booth!
I would like to know if you plan on attending any other SG cons in the future with more Octopath merch! And if perhaps, you’ve ever considered helping host an Octopath fan cafe… I’m very unsure about the Octopath community in SG; I don’t know if it’s feasible/you have enough fellow fans you know well to even begin to plan a cafe with, but just know you will have my eternal support if you do!!!
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hi! thank you so much for dropping by at doujima!!
unfortunately i have to break it to you that i am not based in singapore so i wouldn't be able to help with hosting any events there...🥹 i do plan to attend doujima every year though! i'm preparing a few octopath things this year, but there aren't that many new additions if you've been to my booth last time.
there were still quite a few people who dropped by to look at my octopath stuff while i was boothing so i wish you luck if you ever get to hosting a fan event in SG!! i would definitely be interested in stopping by if it coincided with my doujima trip or even another time... i visited the shanghai sqex cafe during its octopath 2 run and it was really great seeing other fans 🥺
I THINK THE WORST PART IS THAT ALMOST EVERYONE HIKARI HOLDS IN HIGH REGARD EITHER VIEWS HIM NEGATIVELY OR HAS COMPLICATED FEELINGS ON HIM FKDGDKHSJ o|-< how is hikaris life to the point where his antagonistic relationship with his biological brother is the most straightforward relationship he has. me with my self indulgent hc where hikari is a disney princess because if he cant be liked by people he needs to be liked by all manner of animals (delusionally spawned from that one cutscene at the start where hikari rides a horse. horsegirl hikari is real. TO ME)
i do like to hc that hikaris ch5 is one of, if not the last chapter to be done in an order that makes most sense sequentially...... cause ironically enough. his final chapter is actually one of the least urgent FKDHKHDS everyone else aside from throne has a very clear deadline (even agneas dance off 😭) or an active threat for their final chapters which cant be put off so. once everyone elses business is done and dusted hikari just brings the entire gd cavalry to take back ku. oboro watching from his perch as a multicoloured rainbow group of travelers crest a sand dune and approach threateningly
i fr thought that hikaris story would end with him accepting his shadow cause of yin yang imagery ykno..... needs to be balanced..... and methinks it would be more compelling if hikari embraced that part of him which also reflects all of kus atrocities and still does his best to carve a new path forward for ku..... and also how that might affect his final confrontation with oboro who was consumed by the shadow..... but whatever i can be delusional and pretend thats how his arc Did conclude in the 8path 2 longfic that exists solely in my brain
oh my god i was only thinking of older!ritsu from his perspective BUT YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT WITH HIKARI CLINGING TO RITSU AS AN ELDER BROTHER FIGURE TO FILL IN THE VOID MUGEN LEFT...... (has been converted to an older ritsu believer) this really shaping up to be one of those brain chemistry altering homoerotic friendships that scar you for life. regarding hikaris ch4 banter with throne, i think def a part of his competitiveness came from his childhood rivalry with ritsu, knowing them ritsu would Hate for hikari to pull his punches and hikari himself doesnt want to disrespect ritsu by holding back
FUCK hikari being jaded after his mom got killed in part to two of his elder bro figures actions, but seeing ritsu and mikkas relationship and the lengths they go to to look out for the other helps him restore his sense of hope
ritsu growing up with hikari who is this unattainable ideal he can never reach or surpass, even though he is the older one, and then years down the line finding out that all this time hikari had a natural inherent advantage due to his birthright that he has always been rejecting..... 🫠
honestly yea i wonder about how genuine temenos' faith is.... most times it seems like hes super flippant about it but then other times he sounds like he means it, and ofc how he actively always tries to rely on his own ability and look at things from an objective standpoint..... i was thinking that maybe unlike the majority of adherents who find strength and hope in religion, temenos draws those same things from the sense of community derived from having the same belief???? so he himself doesnt really put too much stock into the practice but still uses it as a means to connect with others?? which would kinda explain why he tends to sound more earnest when invoking the sacred flame stuff to other people..... idk lol but ofc growing up in a church he will still feel the religious guilt creep in no matter how detached he might be from it all LMAOOO i would know as a person who spent a decade in catholic schools and still experiences religious guilt despite not having a belief 👍
👀 hikari who gives thanks both at the start and end of his meals getting curious about temenos' meal rituals since he is also the only other traveler who has such habits 👀
HELPPPP [ku npc vc] why does the king of ku/that strange proselytiser call you babygirl FKFHDKGSF...... im just thinking about how hikari is probs too busy to know too much of the rumour mill but temenos who comes and goes often and mingles with the townfolk is just subjected to all the harassment first hand..... him and his ambiguous relationship with the king is the hot topic amongst middle aged and elderly gossip circles at teahouses and they are NOT shy about it. every day temenos gets subjected to gossipmongering in ku then is ran circles around by beastling children who poke at his prone body lying in the dirt when he collapses from exhaustion (he is content)
REALLLL idc "doubt is what i do" / "then let trust be what i do" is so canon to me. i was kinda disappointed temenos' banter with hikari didnt touch on that betrayal at all, and that throne didnt even Have a banter with him..... would have wanted to see one of them warn hikari pre rai mei and the other advice him post rai mei but whatever its fine. wanted to see a therion/cordelia esque convo regarding trust between those three but ITS FINE.
YEA FAIR ochette didnt escape unscathed either 😭 stormhail (derogatory)
FKFBDKDBS one never truly escapes the haikyuu trenches <- person who got dragged back into it during the height of covid
osvalds vidania dialogue was really short but it felt genuine, like he def ended up in a vastly better position than when he started his journey and hes truly reignited his sense of hope and it shows..... on the other hand temenos sounds so bleak, as though he doesnt truly believe what hes saying, and hikaris being centered around oboro is so 🫠 they have been through the Horrors^TM
and that really lines up with temenos' character doesnt it...... taking on the dirty work to pave the way for someone brighter, like he did with roi, trying to protect the people he sees as the embodiment of light and hope..... throws up and dies
yea i really would wanna know more of what happened during the timeskip in hikaris ch1..... im sure ritsus resentment built up for a Long time but i keep wondering whether there was some straw that finally broke his back in those three years..... i can kinda excuse that maybe ritsu just spent all his time in the castle but its kinda strange that hikari didnt even see mikka either, whos still been living in castle town this entire time
FNDBDSHDM youre so real for that. hikaris ponytail can stay on during sex if hes lying on his front [i am forcibly pulled off stage] this reminds me but ykno of those posts where men say they started developing a pavlovian reaction to their girlfriends pulling their hair back into a ponytail? that but temenos when hikari lets his hair down fhdjshsds [i am forcibly removed from the room] i still think it was a missed opportunity to not get more hairstyle variation for hikari (osvald too), i wanted to see him in a bun. or a braid. or half up half down :( i really liked seeing the different hairstyles primrose and ophilia got (apothecary primrose my beloved) so i was hoping the long haired men in 8path 2 would get that same energy
in pursuit of elena doesnt quite have the same ring to it but it reminds me of haanits for master..... and yea hikaris motif being for home is so 🥹 his goal was the one that def snagged my interest most pre release. for kingship works too but i like to think of his home as encompassing both ku itself, which he does love dearly, and also the people he loves..... calling back to his promises to tsuki, his father, and ritsu to make ku a better place once he takes up the crown.....
I SAWWWW YOUR FLOWER ARTWORK you are always so correct 🙏 it really is interesting to think about how the 🌼🗝️👁️🏯 quartet in particular have such close and diverse relationships with death.... hikari and throne both bring death but for hikari its a personal failure whilst for throne its a mark of success, castti tries to prevent death or at least make peace with it, and temenos usually only arrives at the scene of death and works with corpses. considering the roles they play with death, throne and temenos can separate themselves enough from it to not be extremely affected by the deaths that dont personally involve them, but yea for castti and hikari they both see every death as a preventable thing they simply failed to stop.... i think castti in particular is self aware enough to know that its unhealthy to think that way (esp post trousseau) and that as a professional healer she needs to have that sort of boundary but she clearly still cant help but feel guilt over all the people she couldnt save, whilst for hikari its very much like a. 'my ideals werent enough to convince them' self flagellation thing....
👀 omg.... 👀👀👀 its not even entirely unfeasible either cause the moonshades ultimate goal in ku is to get ahold of mugens darkblood blade and after kuras death it seemed like no one aside from rai mei would have noticed hikari disappear. oboro wanted hikari to turn traitor and overthrow mugen, so he also purposely fanned the flames between mugen and hikari, in an effort to embitter hikari completely..... maybe also advised jiro to stay distant from hikari in order to protect him from mugen, and tried to isolate hikari completely before the unexpected appearance of ritsu and mikka foiled that plan..... me, looking at any aspect of hikaris backstory: how can i make this about oboro
seeing hikaris ch1 gang interacting with his shadow will fix me (a lie) (i would have become more insane) cause all three of them would have such different reactions to it..... oboro in particular intrigues me cause if we're going by the delusion that his initial plan was to try and turn hikari over to the moonshade orders side, he probs would looked at hikari and went "i can make him worse" fkfbdldbds
i also think it would have been so cool and epic (read: traumatising) for hikaris shadow to make a proper appearance in his ch4 tbh cause rai mei having to come face to face with the shadow again but this time without her brother protecting her, especially in this time of uncertainty for her where she has to choose between placing her faith in hikari or submitting to mugen...... giggles insanely
EXACTLY temenos' appeal is that hes just Some Guy..... hikaris everything and hes just temenos /j but fr i think a lot about how temenos could have probs lived out his whole life in peace as an ordinary cleric but he chose to take on all the burdens the dead left behind and suffered for it...... he may act soooo aloof but so many of the major turning points in his life was him acting out of love o|-<
FJDVDKGDNDHS THEYRE SO FUNNY i think for hikari sparring is an honest measure of skill, and he feels uncomfortable having to deceive others which is a needed skill in poker..... even tho he himself is perfectly fine being the deceived 😭 me pairing up the most dishonest ass travelers with the most painfully honest traveler and studying their interactions like lab rats. but it really was such an unexpected surprise that hikaris earnestness somehow managed to break down temenos' and thrones walls LIKE THAT IS CANON. THEY WERENT EVEN LIKE DRUNK OR ANYTHING WHAT THE HELL. lives in my mind rent free
fnfhdkdhks yea thats fair, i think of hikari and agnea purely in a platonic/familial kinda dynamic, never really vibed with them as a romantic pair even tho its obvious there was a lot of art and text hinting at them. then again tbf i am Extremely picky about my m/f ships and get easily annoyed when it seems like im being pushed to like a specific one ehe.... side note the idea of agnea and hikari becoming in laws once pala and mikka officially get together is hilarious to me FJDBDKBD i think hikari king of ku should have formally invited the travelers down to the mourning festival when almost every single one of them lost someone of importance in their journeys to kickstart the epilogue but hey thats just my opinion!!!!
ARGHHHHHH the fact that theyre both so covered up makes me even more insane when i think about those accidental fleeting touches against the small exposed bits of their skin..... (fainting at the sight of a victorian maidens ankle energy) i indulge in the thought of temenos having to get close to heal a head wound on hikari and accidentally brushing his fingers against hikaris neck when he pulls away [dies]
temehika hivemind real⁉️ it really is so funny that theres such a common recurring theme in temehika works fmfdkdhss we have a Type 😔 something something about how both temehikas nighttime path actions are specifically about getting more information when theyre both individually hiding so much hehehe (just ignore how hilarious hikaris bribe would be in universe) not to mention how temenos coerce could specifically interact with hikaris shadow
also RAAAAAHHHHHHHH🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️ @ the spyxfamily temehika art i was the one who sent that ask fkdbdkdhs im not even a Huge sxf fan but the thoughts been living in my head ever since i noticed the similarities both character and design wise..... they are so gorjus 🫶 the yuri throne addition is so cute too fjdgshgs They <3
mugen vs hikari is fr the most straightforward hero vs villain that we get in octo2 like, even with chars like kaldena and petrichor('s darklings) you kinda feel bad for them bc arcanette manipulated them but mugen and hikari are just how siblings are. dialed up to 11 (JK)
ok but you're so real for that bc i was so sad that hikari parted with his horse after the ch1 ending like ...? if you could give us a ship as a new mode of transportation i wish we got horses too!! for no reason other than to see hikari run around the overworld on a horse!! i think it would be cute to see temehika on a horseriding date too bc temenos would naturally have to sit with his legs on the side like. princess style LOL idk if you saw the totk screenshot of my teal horse named temenos but i had a dumb idea of hikari owning that horse (temenos: did you miss riding me that badly) JFHGKJHAKJG
that's true... me finishing hikari's final chapter first also means he was crowned king and then fucked off to the other 7 corners of solistia LMAOO
yeah me being kinda dissatisfied with hikari's ending is exactly why i'm working on a teme"hika" fic (stop lying you're just horny) oghdjfkhgh i think it has a lot of interesting potential with the inconclusiveness at the end but.. man... okay you guys want temenos to be the one who exorcises him so badly (delusional)
ough with throne also being older than him and a sword user, it'd be nice if their sibling-y relationship sort of reminded hikari of ritsu.. damn hikari how come you get two sibling proxies ((
god... ritsu and mikka were probably the only real interactions hikari had with people outside of the castle too, i think his relationship with them really did shape his ideologies later in life... o<-<
oo that's a really interesting way to put it, because it is quite clear that temenos doesn't agree with relying on the gods but he doesn't actually say anything when crick says "you don't even believe in your own gods, do you?" which makes me think even temenos himself isn't fully decided where he stands on that... in a way i think after arcanette is taken care of, he'd feel... better? about trusting the church and its beliefs in a more genuine way... of course, arcanette doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he still feels like the gods abandoned him when he needed them most but i still like to think part of why he was so compelled to reveal the truth was because of his own attachment to the church
WAIT you're so right i didn't make the connection that hikari would also have such habits... (<- east asian and yet) that's so cute actually like imagining them just saying it out of habit and then they look at each other over the dining table, and it sparks a little conversation since i don't think any of the others would have similar habits bc of their backgrounds...
YESS temenos being harassed by the ku neighbourhood aunties LMAOGJKAJHKA i still find it really funny that reiza (ch3 crackridge npc) calls him cute like canonically the type to be doted on by older women (?) or something like that.. i like the idea of temehika slowburn where they're intimate with each other but not to the point of it being explicitly romantic, just two people who find comfort in each other's presences but are too afraid to give the relationship a name in case it ruins what they have... but anyway it would be really funny if what prompts one of them to finally take the next step was a particularly nosy auntie HAHAH
fr tho like obviously darius' betrayal has a huge impact on therion but it feels so funny putting him next to hikari like (image: hikari going "first time?") damn i really do wish hikari gets massive trust issues </3 team asano said hmm nevermind we should make them play poker instead and i respect them for that.
I HAVE THE HAIKYUU PANEL OPEN i will draw it sometime. thinking about temenos and kazan meeting in montwise and they're immediately sus of each other
i know that for gameplay purposes it's your protag that stands forward to respond to oboro in vidania but like, given temenos' first line "It's true that my journey has been fraught with loss." it makes me think about the possibility of oboro directing his words to temenos specifically in that instance... haha...... oeughuthguh squeezing him
tbh i always thought octopath npcs felt really underdeveloped except for the ones that sort of. took up most of that particular character's story (erhardt and crick) and the results really show in the official npc popularity polls... like i think it's sad how little we got to see of tsuki bc even though we do get to find out more about her in hikari/agnea pt2, it feels... really belated at that point?? ah well i know this will always be a shortcoming octopath has
NO YOU'RE SO RIGHT. i've been thinking of drawing another fox temenos series to match the cat hikari compilation i did a while ago so... ponytail pulling.. (temenos would only do this when feral) also i know i'm replying to this super late but that pavlov thing has been making me feel Insane LIKE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ABOUT HUNTER HIKARI... everyone including hikari just thinks temenos developed a cat ear fetish.....
osvald really needed more hairstyles!!!! i mean it does feel very in-character that he leaves his mane alone (at the same time that would mean hikari would choose to tie a low ponytail by himself for certain outfits. hehe... or maybe throne gave him fashion tips) but man.. this is a job for the fanartists fr. i think hikari looks so cute in a messy bun... ALSO APOTHECARY PRIM SO TRUE
tbh with how little of oboro's plans were actually explained, it's inevitable to overthink every part of hikari's story... it feels sooo fucked up that hikari's story is like. a pretty straightforward "overthrowing the evil warlord" kind of story but the moment oboro gets revealed you start overthinking EVERYTHING... it would be so interesting if that was oboro's plan, not even necessarily in the "recruiting this guy into my cult" kind of way bc it feels like oboro is less indoctrinated into it compared to people like trousseau and more like.. his ideals just aligned with the moonshade order. but i think he would just want the satisfaction(?) of seeing hikari reach the same conclusion as him in regards to life being suffering... i always wondered if oboro ever felt some kind of guilt for dragging ori into the moonshade order with him but i think he also just sees that as an inevitability of living in ku or something... either you're a bloodthirsty killer or a suicidal nihilist 😭
HONESTLY i felt a little insane when hikari's ch4 ended without him going apeshitt like OKAY it would've made it harder for rai mei to take hikari's side but also if they got that resolved in stormhail i feel like rai mei would be less. concerned about the future of their country or whatever LOL honestly it's interesting to think about "hikari" and oboro because like, despite "hikari" originating from the Shadow it also feels like he's more distinctly hikari-ish than vide-ish? i guess what i'm saying is that even if "hikari" somehow won in a ch5 bad ending scenario, he probably would have still ended up going against oboro... much to think about
HELP the barbie reference killed me (after watching the movie that's esp hilariously ooc) but yeah it's honestly fked up thinking about how much temenos' life was messed with by arcanette... i wonder if arcanette didn't originally have an interest in temenos because he wasn't exposed to any church secrets like jorg and roi were but started to become intrigued by him because of the way he acted since roi's death... like if you compare him to osvald, it's surprising how little emotion we get to see from him so i can see why arcanette would be so obsessed with seeing his mask fall off...(sadist
god i still find temenos and throne's attempts to throw each other off SO funny, i wonder what they would've said to hikari... part of me thinks they both knew that neither of them wanted to deceive hikari so they just started to target each other gkjthkjh "idc if hikari wins i just want YOU to lose" something about how both of temehika's tavern banters (excluding the boys' chat one) end up being about your vulnerabilities or something... another side of yourself... okayy i get it you two just bare everything to each other (insane) actually i was looking at the boys banter in japanese recently-ish and when they're getting sleepy hikari goes "sheep-shan..." while counting instead of "-san" and god that's so stupidly moe....... my mutual talked about him accidentally calling teme "temenosh" at some point and hskgahhj just thought you'd like to know that
honestly something that really gets me is that while temehika are so covered up, they still have exposed hands.. i mean i know partitio and castti are the only others who wear gloves but ough there's something nice about their hands brushing and stuff...
i think even if some of their subjob outfits expose more skin, when it comes to actual intimate situations they're still flustered by it.. i had this little thought of hikari taking temenos to a hot spring and he's like "do let me know if the water is too hot for you" etc etc bc it's temenos' first time but when they get inside it's hikari who gets really flustered looking at temenos shirtless and has to leave the hot spring early hhfkgjh
tbh it's so funny and lowkey unfair how temenos' coerce just seems like something he'd do so naturally but it's so hard to reasonably come up with a situation where hikari would use bribe with someone who isn't a stranger LOL hikari is just at a disadvantage here!! i remember joking around with someone about hikari bribing temenos with food when he's visiting ku bc well. he seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't take care of himself well anyway
omg HAKGAHG ty for sending the suggestion it also blew my mind when i realized it... i also went to binge reread all of it after that 🧍 i'm normal. obviously it doesn't actually work that well as an au bc the whole point of their family is that they look like a nuclear family BUT WELL i can be selectively delusional or whatever. i would want to see hikari get really caught up on what "normal" couples are supposed to do but end up getting really embarrassed about something as small as holding hands...
do you have an eta on when you’ll ship things from your shop? i ask because i really want an octwo charm but i’m moving at the end of august and don’t know what address to put it in so i won’t miss the package. thank you, love your art!
thank you!!
it'll probably be within august! but if you're worried about address changes, you can dm or email me at [email protected] with your order details and i can hold onto it for you until you have your new address just in case. you can just put in your old address or some other placeholder for the moment 👍
Will you put extra charms up for sale? I missed the deadline 😔
Hey here's the sentinel and guide anon! 🙋♀️ This setting is very variable, based on the author's own tastes. Basically the sentinels are very sensitive in their feelings and may go berserk when they couldn't control themselves (this time they may even have no self-awareness), and guides can help them calm down. When the situation is very dangerous, the guide need to enter the sentinel's mental picture, find and solve the core problem inside the sentinel's mind.
You know. I want temenos meet shadow hikari by this way. I want it badly...!
ohh... that sounds really interesting 🥺 i like the idea of "hikari" appearing when hikari is trying to suppress strong emotions so that sounds fitting...
and wauugh solving problems is so nice for temenos it kinda feels like the most potentially dangerous sentinel + most competent guide combi (?) i also want to see temenos having a conversation with "hikari" o<-<
temenos kissing the long strands of hikaris fringe o|-<
YES... actually i tried to draw this in one of my first artworks of them (but interrupted https://twitter.com/satsuhart/status/1636074311349047296 ) i think it's a really nice image... kissing his fringe kissing his ponytail kissing his forehead it's all free real estate !
Hello satsu, I wonder if you know the setting "Sentinel and Guide"? I've imagined this for temehika for a very long time, because they're just very suitable. Hikari is strong in fighting and Temenos is good at guiding people.... They could have their spirit animal as cat and dog/fox... Simply throwing this idea here qwq
i've heard of it before! (saw it on a korean wiki so i read into it a bit lol) i don't know much about the setting but that sounds really cute... i think there was something about the guide helping the sentinel when their powers go berserk? 🤔 that's really nice to think about... hikari doesn't want to hurt temenos but temenos is the only one who can stop hikari in that state o<-<
oh and temehika spyxfamily esque flavoured au..... wily and two faced spy temenos and scarily competent yet naive and earnest assassin hikari
shajfjska omg i would've never made the connection but that actually... suits them so much 😭 ochette as anya and throne as yuri (
JK BUT that's actually such a cute idea hikari constantly being like "why is he so nice to me don't normal couples fight more" and temenos overanalyzing everything hikari does even if his actions have no deeper meaning ... feels very Them...
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How about Temehika, hiding in the rain and kissing? 🙄
ive been thinking about the chaos of modern au temehika meeting each others families..... temenos' family is p average and normal, his adopted father and brother are both welcoming and friendly to hikari.... on the other hand temenos has to constantly be on his best possible behaviour to try and impress hikaris high achieving and rich asian family
😭 oh my GOD... the idea of roi and hikari meeting in modern au is so cute... roi going "i never thought temenos would bring a partner home!" (temenos, knowing roi never says anything he doesn't mean: 🧍) meanwhile hikari's family is like "HOW OLD did you say you were??" at least he has a nice mother i guess... jigo seems like the kind of father who's well meaning but not very close to his children and he seems generally approving of what hikari does but he does go a bit 🤨 when hikari brings temenos home... actually i wonder if they'd just try to hide their relationship completely, i'm sure temenos has good enough manners to impress them but it's a different story when he's Dating My Son fhshjdhf i'm imagining the first time hikari brings temenos over for dinner or something kura just winks at them while jigo/mugen are clueless just a bit confused... this is so cute but it's also making me realize the sharp contrast between their family dynamics 😦 bc even if kura was good to hikari it doesn't change the fact that her mere existence brought tension to the family... much to think about
cant wait to see another chart thats going to look absolutely deranged <- person who 😦ed at the vertical axis on your 8path2 siblings chart FHDKGDJVS OH MY GODD??? hikari was the devs hated child..... or maybe fave child depending on how you look at things. gee hikari how come mom almost let you have TWO homoerotic enemies/lovers relationships?? and yea after hearing about how in jpn hikari refers to people as "comrades" i wish that had carried over to eng translation. him calling everyone his friend kinda cheapens the moments he has with the ch1 ku gang who are his Actual friends, and this is def an unintentional side effect but it also makes hikari so disingenuous cause at the root of it all, hes not looking for friends, hes looking for allies in a war effort fkdhkdhfdb me when i lie fr
RIGHT?? for the character whos very much metaphorically meant to be the light and hope, he sure doesnt have a lot of direct positive impact on his cast of supporting npcs (sorry hikari) its even worse too when you consider that unlike him, partitio and ochette arent like. Really actively trying. most of their redemptions were more of a byproduct of their actions, but the genuineness of that shone through to inspire others, which then also leads back to how a lot of hikaris actions contradict his words..... anyways im very insane over the ochette/partitio/hikari combi
the way i immediately went to learn sp steal for throne when she got 30jp, realised it wasnt there, then later found out that fucking temenos got the sp steal skill instead 💀 which ig is fair, i always thought therion was the most op 8path1 starter cause of steal, but also because he can self sustain both his hp and sp in the early game
therions good at acting and knowledgeable on discerning value, and partitio is a lot more tolerant of his respective thief traveler than tressa (esp considering he has experienced poverty before too) so....... wow partheri real /j btw the contrast between therion/tressa and throne/partitios relationships has always been so funny to me, i was expecting a lot of conflict between the thief/merchant again but throne and partitio actually get along quite well
the castti journey devastation effect is so real.... i remember seeing all the ch3 reactions on twitter, congrats to her (and temenos) for destroying the fandom HIKARIS BRIBE IS SO UNSERIOUS 😭😭😭 which is a shame cause i really wanna inquire info about ritsu and mugen in particular...... you set a poll about ritsus age before and i voted him being the same age as hikari then, but thinking back on it, i think ritsu being older would also make for an interesting dynamic cause then thatll feed even more into his inferiority complex with hikari 🫠 ritsus an overprotective big brother type, but i imagine growing up it was probably hikari protecting ritsu more than vice versa due to hikaris greater strength and high position in society
i really keep flip flopping between Emotionally unavailable temenos who distances himself as a defence mechanism vs Desperation fuelled temenos who doesnt hold back anymore to avoid piling on more regrets post canon characterisation...... but i can have both my slowburn and quickburn angst [me standing behind temenos with a bat labelled 'extreme internal conflict']
OH YEA NO i always get so excited weaving together the little hints 8path drops to map out the overarching plot..... its just so interesting how tonally different 8path 1 vs 8path 2s protags journeys end for the most part. it really feels like homecoming for 8path 1 protags (or. as close as it can get anyways. like with therion and primrose) but for 8path 2 i really did not get that sense at all fkdhksbs
THE WAY THIS ALIBINO ASS WHITE MAN STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB IN KU TOO hes never finding peace. local inquistor gets a taste of his own coercing medicine
"then let trust be what i do" HIKARIIIIIIIII 👹👹👹👹 stormhail is so hilarious to me cause its not even a final chapter location for anyone its only purpose is to traumatise hikari and temenos (and ochettes there to ball) and the temehika delusion that sprung up from that is so real..... FMDBDKDBS its giving that one haikyuu panel where kuroo and daichi shake hands whilst smiling but theyre just simultaneously thinking Ah. this guy is the crafty type. IM. IM GOING TO FUCKING EXPLODE the subtle way he challenges oboro with that too, with the knowledge temenos learned from hikari about their relationship in travel banters oogh o|-< temenos' vidania dialogue is so temehika coded fr (delusional) i remember you once pointed out before that his dialogue sounds more like hes referring to hope as an external source like a person (hikari/castti) rather than something he himself has, and youre so real for that actually.....
FKDVDKHSKGSJS CLOWN TO CLOWN COMMUNICATION tbh ritsu reassigning himself to work under mugen really was such a do or die move.... he would def get a lot more upward mobility and opportunities to raise his standing compared to when he was working under hikari, but if he fucks up at all Thatse It. whether he falls in the line of duty or he fails and mugen kills him himself. but then to ritsu he probs thinks its worth the risk that even if (when) he dies, he can at least secure mikkas future o|-< LMAOOOOFBDKHDS as an eldest sibling i can understand. we are very annoying
satsu ceo of nun hikari and EXACTLY.... its the loss of inhibition.... plus i will always just eat dog/fox x cat dynamics the fuck up love those fucking creachers
ochette did us all a national service cause esp in regards to hikari, i personally dont really like the look of long straight hair worn loosely, he looks way cuter with his hair all messed up..... but yea fkdbdkhsbs ochette looked at the two most orderly and well groomed men of the travellers and was like holup..... let me cook
yea thats interesting to think about esp cause obviously most travelers have goals outside of their main goal, but usually their "for/in pursuit of [thing]" is such a marketing staple and its cool to see that osvalds story actually ended up abandoning that goal..... it might have been cool to see osvalds "in pursuit of revenge" change to something else in his ch5 but i guess the only way we could see that change being reflected is in the ost names which would have been confusing.....
REAL UGH im so obsessed with the dual hope vs despair that embody so much of casttis and hikaris arcs..... castti being an apothecary who saves lives and hikari being a symbol of change for ku are literally such huge on the nose metaphors for hope but both their journeys are so hounded by grief and anguish i o|-< i really like the flavour of 'matyr who tries to save everyone' + 'pragmatist who just tries to save them' in my castthrone and temehika dynamics cause of that
AUUUGGGGHHHHHH ku places such weight on martial prowess that it makes me wonder whether even amongst royalty literacy and wisdom isnt that valued or prioritised.... it doesnt make much sense to me that oboro taught hikari specifically to hone him against mugen cause even in their final confrontation against mugen oboro was the one handling all the strategy and details..... at that point this just reads to me like oboro unwittingly got too attached to hikari and spent more time than absolutely needed with him haha god knows oboro has a habit of picking up strays haha throws up and dies
FKDHDKDHSJDH jiros retainers are basically just hikaris eccentric neighbourhood asian uncles who doted on him when he was young
we were robbed blind to not see hikari truly go apeshitt even ONCE!!!! the cowards wouldnt give the people what we want..... tbh that could have made for a more nuanced narrative in hikaris story, or at the very least would have made ritsu a more impactful character in the fandom.... you know youve written a good character when people wont stop fighting over them haha [stares in fire emblem fan war flashbacks]
temehika soulmate behaviour fr (foaming at the mouth) my first playthrough i kept noticing how at every chapter their journeys kept mirroring each other and i was just like. are yall being deadass rn? right in front of my delusional ass who will twist any canon material to fit my agenda?
oh interesting, never realised there was such an interpretation out there..... i can def see the similarities temenos has between throne and her story npcs, esp with their matching talents, which is p noteworthy cause even amongst other crossed path pairs none of them have similar synergy.... but yea personally not a headcanon i buy into.... i think its funnier (and also thematically more fitting and tragic) that temenos was just Some Guy that got accidentally swept up into everything fkdhdkbsvd
i generally have a Problem with getting too attached to my 8path starters (idiot who chose therion three consecutive times) but hikari really feels so connected with the endgame and overarching plot that its genuinely hard for me to deviate from him now fndbjdbdvs his protagonist energy is too strong 😔 AND YEA the thing that struck me as strange was how hikari Specifically went out to pay respects to ritsus dad. we know that oboro still had some means of contact with rai mei even after they all went their separate ways so whos to say he didnt also help stoke the flames between hikari and ritsu too. idk how ritsu would have fit into oboros plans in the grand scheme of things but its fun (devastating) to think about oboros manipulations going that far back 🫠
FHFJDHDKHS you know what..... thats fair...... partitio adopting all these newly unemployed depressed fuckers and giving them a new lease on life. mayhaps post partitio influence, when hikari and ori first properly meet face to face she wont even try to stab him
due to how honourable and straight laced hikari and also how different his station in life is from thrones, i assumed at first that him and throne wouldnt really see eye to eye, but they actually have this sort of mutual understanding and its really nice..... i think esp in regards to how violent and cutthroat thrones environment is, hikari is probs one of the only other travelers who can understand her on a more personal level. also something about how both of them were honed to be weapons, both for the sake of their respective affliations which value power, and, unbeknownst to them, also by specific individuals for the purpose of revenge..... mayhaps i just have a soft spot for them as they were my first two travelers but idc hehe throne hikari friendship 🫶 king hikari of ku and his secret shadowy companions who support him in subtle underhanded ways
my want for silly romcom fluff/horny dicks out scenarios vs my need to keep everything as canon compliant as possible and make sure that the characters remain true to themselves coexist in a Very strained peace...... modern aus really do scratch my itch for brainless wish fulfilment even if it means like. stripping temehika of most of their interesting aspects (the Oh he just like me fr trauma)
FUCKED UP HOMECOMINGS FKDHDKDBDS slap that onto the list of uncanny similarities between temehika right below 'dead exes' and 'endgame big traitor reveals'
REAL 😭 i honestly do like agnea and hikaris dynamic but agnea feels so removed from their crossed paths storyline, esp cause it was so focused on ku and...... agnea really cannot relate much to the absolute trainwreck going on in it 24/7. i get why the devs did it cause agneas def the traveler who represents hope most and boy do the residents of ku need that! and also for the dancer/warrior tradition but idk..... aside from temenos i would have also liked to see castti in hikaris crossed paths, cause she, like agnea, is also another traveler who embodies hope but since shes also gone through so much loss she can empathise more with the tragedies in ku. osvald would have also been interesting cause of the whole thing with yomi, and im curious to see how he of all people would have reacted to that, esp since he starts off his journey driven by vengeance but gave up on it by the end. tbh just all the tragic travelers should have just gone to see the mourning festival lol maybe throne and temenos would have lost it (person who thinks a lot about that one banter where they cried after hikari sang a ku song)
TOUCH STARVED AND REPULSED TEMEHIKA REAL i do think that because of their occupations they get exposed to some degree of contact but they use it mainly as a purely practical tool to offer comfort to others, whether as a clergyman acting friendly and approachable to the townspeople or a soldier building rapport and providing support to his brothers in arms..... but then privately both shy away from physical contact. temenos' aloofness also extending to his physical boundaries and hikari growing to associate touch with harm plus his distrust in himself, and them losing their families early on in their lives..... i need temehika to learn how to truly be vulnerable to each others touch in a way that isnt them emotionally distancing themselves from the act is what im saying
ALSO YOU 🫵 THE MULAN SCENE. DJDVKDBSFHDHS benkei is trying so hard, temenos' expression in the second panel is so cute..... thank you for drawing the sillys..... saw the art when i suddenly got sick whilst travelling and it temporarily healed me
id like to believe hikari was the devteam's little baby (/victim) because i mean he is the poster boy after all... and we got to hear his theme first... hehe. but yes i did do the chart in the end and it's so funny to me that mugen is one of the few mutual relationships that he has in that they both have negative feelings towards each other 😭 i guess all his family relationships are like that actually.. sorta would've liked for his family relationships to be more complex given that jigo had to stand between mugen and hikari for their entire lives but ah...
that also reminds me because i tried hikari first in the demo when the end of his ch1 had the whole... "i must gather my friends and reclaim my country" thing i actually thought recruiting the other travelers would be canon(?) in the context of hikari's story but oop he was referring to kazan and rai mei LOL i still think it's nice that given the people he recruits for his cause like zeto's gang and the other ku stragglers, it makes a lot of sense for the other travelers to tag along for the final fight of his story... but at the same time i find the ch5 hikari and agnea banter really funny bc agnea feels SO out of place in the battlefield skjhjkga girl ur final boss is a celebrity...!
we're bullying hikari so hard but like </3 what can i say the devs did it first... with the existence of his shadow i kinda wish that ending was a bit different bc well. i like dark doppelganger stories a lot but my favourite kind of ending is where that part of the character is embraced for the better or something bc i think it prevents that character from being so... embodiment of all that is good HFKDKHDG sorry hikari i do think you need to be a little more fucked up and not just as "hikari" .
god same i'm so sad we weren't allowed to bribe or AT LEAST inquire/scrutinize ritsu in ch3 like HE'S RIGHT THERE. DUDE TELL ME YOUR AGE AND YOUR DEEPEST DARKEST SECRETS (hands you 100 leaves) i also like ritsu being the same age as hikari but hmm... you are planting an idea in my brain... ritsu being an older brother and hikari being a younger brother but never actually having a normal sibling relationship with his own brother, and beginning to cling to ritsu as an older bro figure... god actually that would explain so much as to why hikari put up with ritsu's shitty (sorry) personality bc he's definitely not as bad as mugen HELP 😭 i wonder if ritsu saw a bit of mikka in hikari too since they both seem to share the ideal of peace in ku, altho at the same time maybe hikari was influenced by mikka and her and ritsu's experiences bc he seemed at least slightly more ruthless as a child... (wanting to take revenge for ritsu's father / wanting to join jin and rai mei on the battlefield) auuh not hikari having to kill both his brother figures back to back </3
but man yeah that would also add another layer to ritsu's jealousy, we know he's about to join the army in the flashback scene and he probably doesn't know anything about hikari's skills and is just looking down on him for being a pampered prince but then gets his ass kicked...
INTERNAL CONFLICT TEMENOS YEAH SO TRUE blasting him with the religious guilt beam too because despite him renouncing the gods at times and basically overturning the church he doesn't seem to have an issue with... being a cleric? and everything that comes with it? like there are times when he seems to use the sacred flame as a little quip like his victory line but sometimes it feels genuine like his banter with castti and partitio where he says partitio's heart is as warm as the sacred flame... tho in that situation it also felt like almost instinct for him to say something like that because he barely remembers it afterwards LOL anyway. i like thinking about temenos' cleric habits maybe he tries to do prayers before meals but ochette can never sit still so he just does it on his own . i think hikari would find it interesting tho (hehe)
temenos getting harassed by scriveners and kids everywhere like imagine hikari gets him to do a paper play for the children of the castle town and they're just like Hey why did you have dinner with the king last night my mom saw you in the tavern and then in the beasting village the kids are like why are you white (ochette: omg you can't just ask someone why they're white)
team asano robbed us of something like that with temehika banters IM SAYING LIKE. the trust/doubt parallels are so obviously there i'm so sure that if temenos' banter with him in ch4 came after rai mei's "betrayal" was revealed it would have been... very different hfkjdhkjgh LBR THO ochette got a little traumatized in stormhail too... something about that fucking town man like anyone mentions stormhail and those 3 just get mad ptsd 😭
oh my god don't make me do another haikyuu panel octo2 trace AKJHDAJKG my 2014 hyperfixation is rearing its head back in . but yeah god hikari and temenos' vidania dialogues stand out so much imo bc even osvald's is really simple and to the point but then there's hikari (anguished) and temenos' is... like that??? for some reason??? it does make a lot of sense that he'd be the least qualified to answer that question confidently but i also think it would suit him a lot to think that it's his duty to bring back the dawn so that someone else could bring hope to the world... auaugh
man it sucks bc ritsu definitely knows that hikari wouldn't compromise mikka either but i'm guessing the years hikari was in charge of the castle town didn't impress him bc he was clearly fixated on giving mikka not only a safe life but a better, more prosperous one which hikari couldn't provide for her since he was giving his attention equally to everyone... i still think it's a little wack that hikari didn't see ritsu even Once (?) during the years he was in charge of the town like i'm sure it's a pretty big town unlike what we see ingame but it still feels weird jdskhjgk ritsu avoided him like the plague
also oh my god same i don't like loose long hair and i was so worried about them doing that with one of hikari's subjobs i think i have a priv tweet of me threatening team asano pre-release KJNJKAHKJGA when i drew hunter hikari with neat hair for that one comic i was like naur .... this feels SO wrong... i'm ngl i'd like to be as "the ponytail stays on during sex" as much as possible but i know how uncomfy it is to lie down with a high ponytail so i have to give in most of the time 😔 (it's not as bad to draw if it's like sprawled out so it's fine actually)
ODKJHGJKH it's so funny tho cuz the women as hunters don't look scruffed up at all even tho agnea has a loose hair sprite as well... ochette needed temehika to match osvald's look 👍
oh man yeah the goal word changing for osvald would've been so cool but unfeasible... in pursuit of... love <3 that reminds me of how hikari/agnea/partitio's were changed since the first trailer as well, tho i sort of still prefer "home" and "prosperity" for hikari and partitio... the beginning of hikari ch5 where he stands on the crest of heroes going "home at last..." makes me so soft and the jp/kr version where he says something like "i'm home, ku" just really shows how much he cares for his country like o<-<
the way we see castti almost give in to the darkness in her crossed paths pt2 is INSANEE like arguably even compared to hikari it's the closest we see to a traveler getting taken over by the shadow... they both seem to be the type who would make it their duty to remember every face they've seen die before them as well, as a reminder of their shortcomings but that must seriously fuck you up after a while... like i talked about how temehika casthrone are surrounded by death and i think despite throne's disgust with killing she doesn't think of death nearly as emotionally as hikari and castti do, even joking (?) about killing greg in castti ch2 LOL like i still think the major character deaths have now fucked them up enough that seeing other corpses is no longer just a part of their job like it used to be, but compared to hikari castti... oh you two have your work cut out for you fixing up your chronically self-sacrificing lovers
oh god since you compared oboro adopting ori and "raising" hikari i just thought i wonder if his intention at the beginning was to make hikari into one of the moonshade order...? if he somehow had a hand in kura's death which brought forth "hikari" then it could be possible that that was his original plan before realizing hikari is just a bundle of light and goodness HFBHGHB oh man if you combine that with hikari's ideology of fighting for his friends being influenced by ritsu/mikka, maybe it was them who threw a wrench into oboro's plans... which would then explain if oboro turned ritsu against hikari to eventually spell out his doom... (delusional) (has 2943058 versions of hikari's story in my mind all of which has very little canon backing)
🥲 i WISH people fought over ritsu it would at least be entertaining but all i hear it radio silence LMAO crazy to me how everyone can agree hikaritsu are divorced exes but no one will make fanwork of it? that includes me i'm guilty of it 😔 but yeah i feel like it would've been so much more interesting to see hikari vs his shadow not be mostly an internal struggle and actually have external consequences besides just the ch4 flashback... like damn what's the point of a traumatic flashback if you're not going to mirror it with a current event HUH ok it's fine i'm calm
i also prefer temenos just being a random orphan like we have enough bloodline shenanigans as is!! i also don't think he needs the added trauma of knowing his actual father was some immortal manwhore like no one needs that in their life. sorry throne
honestly the epilogue is the only real reason i would consider getting a diff protag bc i realized i don't know what hikari says when he leaves you at the campsite or when you pick him up again at new delsta... nor do i know what happens in the new delsta scene if you picked agnea but i can probably look that up later... it would be fun to see it myself tho fhjkdhg getting ready to play octopath2 8 times woohoo hyeah (insane)
no yeah hikari throne friendship is so important to me they're so cute... another thing i noticed in their banters is that in throne ch4 banter they talk about having a duel and hikari takes it way too seriously going "i do not jest when it comes to a competition" but that's kinda funny considering he didn't even want to fight throne and temenos in POKER... oh that banter is still so ridiculous but they're so cute i still can't believe hikari making temenos and throne cry is real like my god? these two showing vulnerabilities? in front of HIKARI? (insane again)
hfjkhdj i think you can tell the devs wanted to push hikari agnea as much as they could which i have generally negative feelings about bc while i usually like canon ships i don't like ships that walk the fine line between canon and... not canon. like i noticed it more bc i was writing out the banters and they have one more main story banter than any other pair at the expense of one more agnea/castti one i think? or another pair i can't remember but i think that sucks bc in a game like octopath i want as equal amount of interaction as we can get 😔 OGH anyway enough complaining but yeah why is the final chapter/epilogue near cropdale they should've gone to ku and traumabonded OJGKHAJKG
i like to think about temenos extending physical comfort as a sort of instinct because of his clerical experiences but when hikari accepts it they're both like oh. wait this is. different. with the amount of temehika sleeping together fics i know we're all thinking the same damn thing like something about being more vulnerable at night when they catch each other awake because of the nightmares, careful not to wake the others by talking too much so all they can do is share a little physical touch... (explodes) i'm writing another fic similar to this it's short and has like no substance but what can i say. stuffing my mouth with the same food again and again
JKDHKH OH NO i'm sorry to hear that you were sick but i'm glad my dumb drawing helped a little... <3
my third eye just opened. hikari with jade earrings not only due to the importance of jade in chinese culture and how its symbolisms fit him but also because green....... temenos.........
hikari should have a cool dragon earring (like on the ku flag) or a chinese knot earring. as a treat
Hi hi! I saw it on your Team Asano tier list and if you don't mind, I'd love to hear your thoughts about Live A Live.
ooh ok! so first of all the story structure sort of reminded me of octopath so i was interested in how they'd bring it all together esp since with LAL the settings are completely different... i really enjoyed how different each chapter felt from the mechanics (special abilities for each character) to even how the entire UI changes to suit the story like the "present day" chapter!
the battle system was also something that felt different and nice, it took me a bit to get used to but i thought it was cool! but unsurprisingly what really made the game for me was the final chapter and the execution of it? it wasn't something i was expecting from this game and it left me feeling very 🤯 (positive) im assuming youre asking for a spoiler free review so i will leave it at that... oersted is my little meow meow 👍
oh! i will say that the game is pretty short even if you decide to go for a completionist run (~20h for main story, ~30h for completionist), so i guess price-wise it can be a little hard to justify... but i did really enjoy the game and would highly recommend it T_T i know it isn't "technically" a team asano game but i think it fits very nicely between the bravely and octopath games especially!!
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