Merida asked 6 months ago
Hass anyone watched Dahmer?
Hass anyone watched Dahmer?
Hass anyone watched Dahmer?
I read that it re-opened up lots of trauma for the families of the victims, and I'm also tired of true crime bitches who think it's cool to be desensitized to violence against marginalized folks. So i'm not too interested in watching it
I haven't watched it, but I see more than one person in the answers deride the docuseries for trying to humanize Dahmer. I can't believe it's not obvious to everyone that any attempt to humanize anybody is a step in the right direction, not the wrong one.
People don't like seeing anybody chalked up as a monster, being humanised. That's what I've noticed anyway. They prefer dehumanising them. Not to be understood.
What about the victims? The family of the victims? I prefer to emphasise with them. Also...I'm sorry, I can't excuse his actions with his traumas or his
Shitty environment. His actions dehumanise him themselves. Cannibalism? Torture? Murder? Necrophilia? What empathy or compassion did he have for the victims?
It's possible he didn't have empathy or compassion for his victims, but that shortcoming doesn't mean he doesn't deserve compassion
At the risk of off putting by being too spiritual, we're all one, and if you were in anyone else's exact shoes, you'd do the same thing they did.
by exact shoes i mean same upbringing/experiences, same dna, same experiences in life before this life, etc
I do agree that the victims deserve more empathy than the perpetrator. I have found myself thinking before how the perpetrators can get nicer
I've also thought before how without understanding how someone like that can be formed, how a rehabilitated criminal is a better person than if they didn't.
Yeah, it was trash. I think, for me, the worst part was that they took a lot of liberties depicting Tony Hughes murder. The writing made an obvious attempt to partly blame him, an average, queer, black, deaf man, over a violent, white piece of shit man. They threw the "Jeff Dahmer got away with this for so long because he was white (and the cops were homophobic and racist) and his victims largely were not" in there. But it was coupled with these totally conflicting messages about how we should feel sorry for or relate to Jeffery Dahmer, as queer people? Nah, fuck that. They also worked really hard to portray that he didn't think he was killing nonwhite people because they were nonwhite. It's like "he didn't intend that" is a big take away, and I find that utterly stupefying. Yeah, Tony Hughes was probably the most humanized of his victims in the show... But I also think that was just to avoid some of the backlash that was going to come with the way they planned to depict his murder. You weren't supposed to be heartbroken for Tony, but for his murderer. So they also, to humanize the character of Dahmer, didn't actually show him murdering Tony. They showed him wanting to stop himself. And it's also just false that he didn't entrap, drug, and torture that man just like the other men and boys he killed.
I'm not sure what's wrong with Ryan Murphy. Like I'm glad he gives work to queer ad trans actors the way that he does, if he is in fact responsible for that... But what we don't need right now, is to watch queer people beg for their lives for entertainment, or see apologetic bullshit for psychotic racists. But it's really obvious that the show is for cishet white audiences who want to nail Evan Peters. The same as American Horror Story.
Some friends and I were discussing this the other day, they've turned this into an entire genre - one of the guys called it 'sympathy for the devil'
it started with talking about all those shows going all the way back to Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, and all, like terrible people who were the 'hero'
It's like they acknowledged that viewers want to see heroes as "flawed", like they see themselves. But then they couldn't differentiate between being
"flawed" and being a violent psychopath. Or at least, they're under the impression there's a much thinner line between the two than I am.
exactly, like 'who among us has never wanted to gouge out eyeballs and consume them??'
That was a good call, Merida. It's depressing, and it looks like that's the consensus so at least it's not as though people aren't calling 'em like they are.
Ya'll know, but I'm not denying Jeffrey Dahmer was a human being. I'm condemning the apologist bullshit, and the fact that the show lies outright in order to
cultivate a narrative that is only offered to the masses when the monstrous human being in question is a white man. "sad/angry white boys, it's not their
faults." and "sUm cOpS aRe bAd aPpLeS" are both pretty far from revolutionary "steps" toward understanding the worst and best parts of humanity.
No. Before I had a baby, I would have for sure. But I don’t want to reflect on what an awful and scary place this world can be anymore.
Nope. What is it?
A TV show based on "true facts" about a murdered who practiced cannibalism and necrophilia
I avoid watching things that disturb the peace of my mind with extremes. I watched a British series about Murder on the Shetland islands. it was so depressing
I feared it would destroy my weekend. Behind my harsh armour there is a tender soul to the amazement of the tougher people I know.
we're not allowed 😞
Only clips, it just makes me depressed and angry, especially the part where a black victim escaped and the cops took the kid back to Dahmer. Meanwhile I walk around with my white girlfriend's daughter and people treat me like I'm a trafficker
The newest Evan Peters one? I just finished it yesterday. It was in poor taste. They basically tried to humanise Dahmer, which is absolutely disgusting for the families of the victims. Also so many (mainly white women) have boasted about it not creeping them out or making them scared or horrified. I don’t understand why people flex that kinda stuff, what he did was barbaric.
They had almost an entire episode of him & a boyfriend. It was like aw look he was nice to him before he murdered him 😒 sickening
I find this a lot with true crime to be honest. Something that really rubs me the wrong way is when I see people discussing their "favourite" serial killers
and I'm like "holy fuck imagine if a victim's family heard you say those words??"
No.
Aside from the fact I already know enough about Dahmer, I'm not really a big fan of the latest outcrop of "true crime as entertainment" media as I find it often ends up lionising serial killers and other criminals, even if that wasn't the intention of the creator.
Not me. I can't watch series.
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Good choice...I had to stop watching it