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you follow a lot of users who ship incest or pedo shit lol disgusting
Three times did the cheese move sideways to Switzerland by radio but she never licked that parking permit
every time that damned list shows up on the tl i think “here we go again😔” bc:
1) it’s old af pls leave it in the retirement home where it belongs (idc if the top 3 changes or not i’m not into any of them) (the luffy-law dynamic is very intriguing tho i must admit), and
2) regardless of op’s intentions ppl’s reactions are sf predictable lmao it’s always “why is zosan so popular” “why are ppl shipping incest” “this ship shud be more popular” like it’s so tedious it pmo coz since when is shipping abt competition?? why do y'all care so much abt winning/losing lmfao this ain't a country fair ppl wrap it up chop chop.
anw this is horror anon lol idk if u noticed ernie but yeah to tie in with my previous ask since we were talking abt shipping: BIG AGREE on ur point abt how antis shud realize that policing ppl bc they personally find things abnormal/disgusting might lead to more sinister things e.g. normalizing censorship n bullying within fandom spaces. i can't say all forms of censorship are bad (most are tho, what happened in nazi germany being the main example so thank u for pointing that out) but within fandom spaces…? i think a lot of antis fail to consider that fanworks don't have the reach that mainstream media has. fanworks may be gaining traction esp since the pandemic but they’ll always be niche compared to the amount of audience that, say, a movie release or a series drop gets. unfortunately, the risk of a minor getting exposed to dark, problematic content isn't limited to them finding it within the fandom they're in - a lot of times they’re exposed to it thru other forms of media. and yeah, as u said, maybe we shud try redirecting the energy wasted from policing ppl on fuckin twitter to actually getting our sources bc i think there's a lot of interesting questions to be asked like: why does lolishota continue to thrive in jpn despite the laws banning child porn? what drove the writers n directors of the new french extremity wave to depict that kind of violence on screen? like…there are so many things to be discussed (things linked directly to real life) but they seldom get talked abt bc ppl are busy arguing over whether or not it’s ok if the lines on paper are kissing😭 so yeah i'm also more comfortable talking to ppl who consider themselves “proshipper” - fortunately we have to use this category bc i don't think there's a better alternative - bc they're usually pretty clear abt their boundaries so i don't have to play a guessing game on what triggers them or not AND they’re not quick to peddle judgment to strangers on the internet.
anw i hope this isn't too out of left field but…i rly, truly enjoy talking to u so how would u feel abt me dm-ing u? if ur not comfortable w/ that i'm happy to continue talking thru retrospring hehe ngl it’s actually rly charming coz it feels like old-timey correspondence😂
lol I can see why people use that list (I’m a petty bastard at heart and I WILL obnoxiously shove down my favs achievements down others throats lol) but it’s also understandable that posting anything in fandom these days does bring about discourse of any kind also I don’t think it’s fair for other ships to get slandered just bc they’re above someone’s fav 😭 at the end of the day fandom is supposed to be fun and a lot of people have forgotten that at times (myself included) it’s like that one TikTok said ‘this ain’t the debate team’
And the censorship one again is something that has to be discussed with nuance and I genuinely believe there is no right or wrong answer about how we go about it I’m of the opinion that art (in the hands of the government especially) should not at all be censored whilst this doesn’t mean bigotry should exist in art I think it’s still important that we examine that stuff within a lens. Why is this problematic? Is this of the authors actual beliefs? If so how can we learn in order not to repeat? It’s why Looney tunes gets praised for still showcasing old cartoons WITH the warning about why it’s bad however still understanding that it has its artist metric. But it is understandable as to why people want to censor some art and I do think people can use it as a tool for hatred and spreading bigotry however I still do think that we need to be careful in how we approach it. Fandom has changed a lot in how we perceive fanworks and just creators in general I’d argue I cant exactly argue how but there has definitely been a change lol I’m older but I’m not that old so I hope someone who is like 30+ could answer it better. And children can stumble among dark content anywhere they go, there’s no stopping a parent from showing their kid Halloween or Paranormal activity (it’s how mine did lol) and whilst the internet definitely CAN make that a lot easier a lot of the time it’s the minors being personally showed something that makes it grooming rather then the art itself. We then have to ask the question about Art itself being in the wrong hands, we’ve literally seen it in this month with ‘the morning visitor’ and how people are making jokes about the artistic rendition of rape. Anybody can twist art into its meaning and then manipulate others to believe that meaning which I think people can very easily miss. Hopefully the convo does get turned around in the next few years but you never know with how people work 😭 and yeah I don’t think there is a better category but like it sucks bc a lot of the time they just get into pointless discourse I’ve seen a few of my friends just call themselves ‘dead dove lover/connoisseurs’ which I do think is a better alternative 😭 lol and no I don’t mind talking thru dm’s! I’ve really enjoyed the convos we’ve been having and it’s nice to have these topics discussed in a more calmer way even if we may disagree in some points so it’s totally fine to DM lol if you tell me your @ I can follow you back if you’re comfy with that ❤️
lmao, for so many ppl Yonji is the least favourite Vinsmoke 😭. I think I even saw some Zoro pfp (which may mean nothing but I find it funny) putting him tier lower than Reiju and 12-ji on powerscaling tier. And honestly I love that lol
lol vinsmoke power scaling is really hard I won’t lie (I also don’t see the point in it) because there’s no confirmation from Oda and also we haven’t seen them in battle enough to really get a good grasp on how powerful each one is. Like if Yonji isn’t the strongest why the fuck is he built like a brick house 😭 treasure cruise does say that Ichiji is the strongest of the brothers which again mmmm 🤷♀️ I like to think Yonji is physical strongest then Ichiji, Niji and Reiju (Niji is the fastest out of his siblings tho, excluding Sanji) I think Ichiji in Judge’s eye is the strongest because of his leadership and strategic abilities along with strength (the vinsmokes are all powerful more so then any human IDK where that puts them on like an average PS tier but ya know)
Which vinsmoke has your fav dynamic with Sanji
They’re all interesting (expect Yonji sorry) especially when you reread WCI and find all the little hints Oda leaves and then never fucking does anything with
If that list of ships is old, I want to know what it is like now
Honestly, it would be crazy if Lawzo beat Zosan in Japan... ...oh god I sound like a Zolu lmao
Lmao I’ll be honest (this isn’t me gassing zosan far from it) but from the amount of work zosan has I don’t think anyone expect maybe lawlu is usurping it in that time frame sorry if I sound too neg <]>}{ I just can’t find myself to care abt any OP character or dynamic that isn’t the vinsmokes 😭 I’m just happy Lusan is on there entirely
oof that ship list/chart thingy is actually rly fuckin old ernie. dare i say pre-2020 pxv bc a lot of banger lusan fanworks on pxv are from 2020 onwards - there are some from before 2020 courtesy of the most dedicated creators who shipped lusan even before WCI lol either way i salute my predecessors🫡 anw i think lusan's numbers (just lusan not counting sanlu) are 1500+ now but i could be wrong
Oh damn is it 😭 maybe LawZoro has grown in popularity (I still don’t believe it’s beating ZoSan/Sanzo) then, and thank you creators for shipping Lusan before WCI truly gods strongest soldiers I do wonder what the list looks like now (doubt top 3 changes) it’s always interesting to see dynamics people are into and asking why
[hi ernie i think we talked abt this almost a week ago but if it’s alright i’d like to continue talking abt it…? if not it’s ok to ignore this love it’s abt the proship-anti thing lol]
i think we're kind of on the same page on this topic coz i also shake my head when i see grown adults participating in online discourse surrounding proship-anti on TWITTER bc that hellsite isn't built for nuance. exploring taboos in fiction is hardly a black n white, gotcha argument kinda thing so honestly most of the times i can't stand both sides :")) my stance on this is unironically “proship AND antis dni i don’t like both of y’all”😂
yeah i agree i also believe that we can still be friends (or at least civil) w/ ppl who would be considered “proship” bc most of the ppl who like the freaky deeky (as u put it lol) don't tweet abt it on main 24/7 like……most of these ppl - me included LOL - are normal ppl who are just more willing to explore (and to an extent, enjoy) dark, taboo content for whatever reason. that's why i enjoy horror lol i love the genre’s queer undertones, the willingness n audacity to explore taboos, AND the discourse that comes afterwards. personal onion but to me what's important isn’t to limit dark, “proship” content but to make sure there’s room for nuanced discussion afterwards. like u said, we’re drawn to the darker sides of the human psyche n one of the safest avenues to explore that is thru fiction. most “problematic faves” are narrative tools who make it possible for their authors to write smth engaging n thought-provoking. ppl would have so much peace within fandoms if they would just accept that.
on the other end of the spectrum tho……..ppl who make being “proship” their whole identity are at best annoying n at worst a hitler/mussolini fanfic writer so yeah it truly is best to just avoid ppl who are on the extreme ends of the spectrum😅 thankfully most ppl aren't like this lol
lol it’s okay I don’t mind talking about it dw ❤️❤️ and yeah it really is disappointing when I see people my age argue abt it lol it’s like come on we have so much better to discuss and as you said taboo works in fiction can’t be put into a black and white box it is smth that has to be explored in different angles otherwise you’re not getting the full potential of what these works can bring. I think anyone who goes hardcore on the discourse is a loser fair cop if it’s someone saying shit on op’s profile but seeking out discourse is just weirdo behaviour 😭 I also don’t get people who act like proshipping is a very new thing bc it’s really not as a hag on the internet people were shipping incest and lolishota proud and openly like this is just a thing that is part of fandom. I also don’t think it’s bad for people’s to be anti’s if you are genuinely triggered/ not interested in proshipping that’s fine tags are there to block and move on. Idk if I’ve mentioned about reactionary politics before on my acc but it’s one of the major things antis get wrong, you can’t use your disgust as a reason to why proshipping is wrong just because you personally find it wrong. When you do that you’re inviting conservative talking points and also limiting what art itself can do, art has to be free and no boundaries that’s why it can be so powerful (doesn’t mean we can’t be critic far from it) but when you limit art and it’s tool, it immediately opens the gateway for bigotry it’s why censorship was such a big thing for the nazis so they could use it to silence Jewish people and just because you don’t engage with problematic art or even write it doesn’t automatically mean you can’t be an abuser. ‘Well I’m not into cnc so how could I have raped her it was normal sex!’ Do you kinda see what I mean? There’s a lot to be said on the topic and I’m not gonna go into further detail because I’m not the person for that and also this is getting far too off topic >]}!{ anyway 😭 I will say this tho I 100% prefer to be friends with proshippers then I would antis but that’s just me 🤷♀️ there’s a lot of flip flop with the ‘anti’ on what can be considered problematic and it’s just really tiring one moment it’ll be smth like teacher x student and then mortal x immortal is also grouped in at the same time and it’s like okay we’ve kinda lost the plot here. I also think a lot of antis kinda need to understand that people have different interpretations of shipping, not everyone who ships two characters together necessarily wants them to be happy, different dynamics exist for a reason and I don’t think anyone is inherently a bad person for exploring an incestious relationship that develops on said relationship even more.
What about Lawzo? Someone said it was actually the most popular Zoro ship in Japan, I'm curious if that's true
Well whoever that was is probably wrong because zosan literally exists 😭 oomf literally posted an op ship chart from JP and Zosan and SanZo both beat Lawzo 😭 anyway if the equation doesn’t have Sanji I literally dngaf and don’t bring the vinsmokes in here cause I sort of don’t ship them with anyone 😭
i want you
NGH I’m taking off my clothes waiting for you rn don’t keep me waiting 🥺🥺🥺
[ITS OK DONT APOLOGIZE I ALSO COPY-PASTE OUR INTERACTIONS IN A NOTES APP LMAO....neurodivergent type beat i guess😎] ohh babe trust me it’s never “JUST” when it comes to the food/service industry. thank u for powering thru it bc the pay is abysmal (esp to ppl who work storefront) n it makes sense for the workers to feel underappreciated but there’s also the underlying tone of “why the fuck are we charging ppl money for smth that’s supposed to be their RIGHT” and it’s a recipe for lunch-break depression :”))
but alas! i'm glad ur in uni now ernie i hope u also get to have ur dream job sometime in the future❤️
well tbh the food industry in general’s been bad since before the pandemic - for example i’m not that well-versed in sourcing but we all know the fuckassery that is factory farming - but it definitely took a turn for the worse during n after. the eatery/bakery i work at is relatively small so we mostly rely on our regulars n the pandemic took most of the joy away from working bc now the orders coming into the kitchen mostly come from drivers working delivery n much as i respect them...they’re not the ones eating the food :")) i can’t ask for feedback (a cook’s lifeblood imo) AND we lose what scrape of intimacy we have w/ our main customer base. …idk maybe i’m being melodramatic but to me one of the saddest things in life is to be alienated from our food like that’s our sustenance n we don’t know how it’s sourced? how it’s made? by who? that’s so sad i hate capitalism sf muchhhh
anw that’s a bummer lol back to sanji n OP c: PLEASE a chopper-sanji & monster trio cooking ep would be so cute🥺 also!! this is rly fuckin niche but i need a filler ep centered around chopper & sanji interacting in the infirmary. we know sanji’s bloodtype is a universal donor that also happens to be the rarest so i kinda need him offering chopper to stock up on his blood “just in case smth happens to me or the ladies……well the guys too maybe ONLY IF they’re dying,,,,so yeah maybe u should take my blood regularly” while chopper just stands there horrified bc that’s not a fuckin normal thing to offer BUT it kinda makes sense😭
sorry this is getting long lol but i’m one of those faggots who love filler eps coz they’re more low-effort than eps w/ “serious” fighting scenes in them (so the animators could catch a break for once) and they act as a buffer between the manga releases to avoid pacing problems coz the way toei is working now?? they’re practically zoro-glazing central w/ no sense for pacing bc why is half a chapter one episode? that’s fckin insaaane i hope they change their ways✌🏼
ps. sorry my asks are so sporadic ernie pls know i also wish we don’t stop talking n i eagerly, patiently wait for ur responses
love, horror anon<3
Hi horror anon ❤️❤️ don’t ever worry abt not responding in a few days from what you’ve said you’re work load must be pretty full lol 😭 I enjoy our convos so much and am happy you choose to take some time out of your day to talk to me :)) and yeah I’m really glad I’m on the path to doing what I want 😭 I’m a little behind bc I fucked up during some stages but I’m finally there just my gripe rn is that I wish I wasn’t in uni anymore bc it genuinely is a drag and I’m not academically gifted at all 😭 but I have like about a year left before I completely finish which is scary I won’t lie 😭😭 I really feel for you anon I don’t think you’re being melodramatic at all a massive change with what’s happening at your eatery/bakery is bound to make anyone upset so don’t be too hard on yourself ❤️❤️ and yes I’d love more chopper and Sanji centred episodes (I HC that when Sanji grows his hair out Chopper will put clips on it and it’s like super silly and girly ones lol) I think they’re one of Sanji’s more underrated relationships and it makes you wonder how if he had stayed + if the others weren’t modified how he would be with Yonji? I won’t go too in depth lol but Sanji’s relationship with Germa is my most fav thing to explore rn lol there’s so much room to do with narrative wise and AU ANYWAY!! That idea would be so cuteee even with the angst 😭❤️❤️ maybe Sanji would use it as an excuse so that he can spend more time with Chopper lol TBH I am normally a fan of filler it’s cute and can really break away from tension obv a balance is needed but yeah. Confession time but I haven’t watched any OP!Filler (IDK if I will ever 😭) but that’s only bc I wanted to catch up to OP as quickly as possible if I was like 14 or 15 I probably would have 🤔 and yeah Toei’s pacing rn is abhorred like yeah it’s good animation no denying that but they’re wasting it on non canon scenes? it’d be different if this was smth for the fans but the fact they’re sacrificing actual canon material (namely Sanji) doesn’t bode well, some people think it’s just an egghead and dressrosa thing but I genuinely believe this has been horrible since Post TS 🤷♀️
lawsanlu the REAL freakazoid trio soooo true their ideal date night would be law pulling various organs out of sanji (to be admired in a highkey curious low-key horny way) while luffy watches on, drooling bc according to him sanji's organs look good enough to eat🤤 law & luffy the kind to talk abt eating sanji (sexually? for sustenance? they don't make it clear) and zoro had to evacuate the premises bc even HE was freaked tf out
Okay forgive for any errors cause I’m picking my sister up rn anyway the mental imagery of Zoro being freaked out by LuLawSan is really fucking funny to me they’re having crazy sex games on levels that cannot be comprehended by the meager mind it gets even better once you bring Nika into it all too, especially because Luffy has (almost) freed them both from their abusive families, Sanji’s self sacrificial tendencies that with Law’s almost omnipresent control over the human body plus Luffy essentially being a vessel for a old god it’s so mwah this baby can fit so much unhealthy mechanisms in it
youre going at war with these sanji fans omg sending prayers
On the front line protecting women Sanji would be so proud of me ❤️
BIG on Robin being the one that shouldve been in wci... I think the arc couldve been soooo amazing if it had robin/e.g. usopp in place of brook/chopper since like you said it wouldve been nice callbacks to W7 and the two have a much more impactful relationship with Sanji. Like ouuuu i feel like there couldve been sooo much to work so much potential... I love wci as is but its a shame
Yeah it really should have been the original gang as a callback to W7 but then again I understand that if he got rid of Brook in that arc, he’d literally have no character >]$?}*~!}€~ I do love WCI (as seen by my acc) but there’s also a lot of faults with it esp during the end (which is like given for Oda I won’t lie)
I saw it late but omg I love SanBin so much too, they're so cute... I love the parallels between their characters/backstories. The way Sanji was the first man to treat Robin gently with genuine kindness since Saul and how she often plays along with his flirting 😭😭😭😭 they're soooo adorable esp in Water 7 and how much he tried retrieving her. I really wish there were more canon moments between the two or that they were more popular, they have tons of potential imo (especially 🔞 wise)
Nothings ever too late with me dw but yasss skypeia really was the catalyst that made me ship them 😭 him calling her ‘Robin baby’ and then leading her away for a drink with his hand on her back so cute ❤️❤️ and robin’s one of the first women to never outwardly reject Sanji (again she does indulge/play along with his flirting multiple times) it’s one of the reasons why I can’t get behind SaNami bc Nami just rejects him constantly. It really did feel like they had sooooo many moments in pre TS but only a few in post (glad to know that Oda still made Robin Sanji’s number one hype woman) they’re both characters who can appreciate the quiet and will sacrifice themselves for others genuinely am soooo disappointed that Robin didn’t go to WCI it’s one of my biggest gripes that I have with Oda (it’s brook’s fault like swap Brook with Robin and the story would not change) it would have been a nice callback to their moments in W7 and also could have led on nicely with Wano too!! But whatever I’m not Oda 😒 I am surprised Robin isn’t a popular ship with Sanji (though Frobins are insane) and yes the sex…. nods they can engage in the kinkiest of sex with Robin’s devil fruit and even Sanji’s knowledge of cooking (since he knows specific weak points of the body) can come in handy one of my hc’s of Sanji sex in general (this can be either luffy or Robin) is him telling them weak pointd of the body and them using it against him ❤️
How would you rank your favorite and least favorite ships with Sanji & why? (The Strawhats (LuSan, ZoSan, SaNami, SanUso, etc.,) AceSan, LawSan, SanPu GinSan etc)
I feel like my opinion/ranking is obvious but rambles ahead
Straw hats - Robiji/Sanbin + Lusan, I dislike the rest I just dont really think any of them have romantic chemistry with Sanji 😭 I think SaNami is my least favourite out of the bunch (I hate people who only like it if it’s ‘yuri’ even more yall are so annoying)
GinSan has turned into a guilty pleasure of mine lol it’s quickly climbed up as a fav cos the fan content is super good and also the fans aren’t annoying (acesan wishes)
Anyway yeah I hate AceSan, the only reason people ship this is because of that one toei filler 😭 same with Pedrosan but I don’t mind that as much bc the fans are chill. Lawsan is the same as GinSan I like it lol it even more appeals to me cos law is a fan of Sora/Germa and you can do a lotttttt with that wink wink nudge nudge
SanPu is just again really boring idgaf about the problematic aspect I just don’t see anything romantic happening with Sanji and Pudding, I also think Pudding is kinda 🤷♀️ as a character and she doesn’t really hit for me.
Same with SanVio IDK it just doesn’t appeal to me like at all 😭 it doesn’t help that these girls aren’t really all that developed and don’t have an interesting base personality so I’m just kinda like ‘okay well whatever 😭’
Sorry I’m veryyyyy picky with Sanji ships and only really ship him with other people if I a) think the chemistry is there b) fits into tropes I like and c) I like both characters on the same kind of level
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